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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Durham Philosophy Journal editor sacked for saying women don't have penises

107 replies

PlantsArePeopleToo · 14/09/2018 00:25

www.palatinate.org.uk/assistant-editor-of-durham-philosophy-journal-fired-for-transphobic-retweet/

Someone please tell me that this isn't true and is some kind of piss take. Or that there is more to the story or something.

The world really has gone mad.

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BettyDuMonde · 14/09/2018 01:12

It’s crazy isn’t it?

This student union officer gets the immediate boot for sharing a Spectator article on Twitter, yet a national student union officer, Jess Bradley got their ladypenis out in their workplace and posted actual photos online and 6 weeks later the investigation is still ongoing.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 14/09/2018 06:06

Penis trumps truth.

CrackpotsArePots · 14/09/2018 06:12

Women don't have penises.

Good comments below that article

deepwatersolo · 14/09/2018 06:38

For those who subscribe to the definition of woman as an adult human female, women do not have penises.
For those others, who reject that definition, there is, frankly, no way to say one way or the other, until they come up with an alternative definition, which by definition needs to be noncircular and verifyable.
This habit of sacking and bullying people for saying who is or isn‘t a Woman is quite remarkable considering that the people doing the sacking have no way of defining who is or isn‘t a woman. Hard to believe that we are not living in the middle of a Kafka novel, actually.

BettyDuMonde · 14/09/2018 06:52

mobile.twitter.com/Sofocleous_A

Glad to see he (Andreas Sofocleous) isn’t going quietly into the night.

*waves at Andreas, should he come across this.

Thingybob · 14/09/2018 06:54

How will it all end? Hopefully like this, a short film Angelos Sofocleous linked to a couple of weeks back

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=Zh3Yz3PiXZw

BettyDuMonde · 14/09/2018 07:04

(Sorry Angelos. My autocorrect made you into Andreas. TWICE!
I blame it on me being crap at 6.52am)

SunsetBeetch · 14/09/2018 07:08

Aneglos is well worth a follow on twitter. Give him some support if you can!

SunsetBeetch · 14/09/2018 07:09

*Angelos

SophoclesTheFox · 14/09/2018 07:10

Durham University Philosophy Society stands by the policies adopted by the Equality, Diversity and Inclusion team within the Department of Philosophy, therefore we do not tolerate practices of racism, sexism, or trans-exclusionary sentiments

Au contraire, Durham University Philosophy Society. I can't think of a more blatant piece of sexism than dismantling the very definition of what being a woman is by pretending that woman is a feeling in a man's head.

THAT IS SEXISM, you overly woke dim witted bunch of plums! So actually, yes, you do tolerate sexism - you endorse it pretty heartily in this case.

SunsetBeetch · 14/09/2018 07:12

"However, Sánchez-Schilling subsequently tweeted: “In response to the hundreds of notifications I have: women can have penises and this is regardless of whether you conceive gender to be based on sex or not, TERF is not a slur, comparisons to Orwell are trite and there is more to philosophy than pedantic debate.” "

Ha ha ha. Idiot. He couldnthave tweeted anything better to illustrate this utter wankydoodle.

FlippinFumin · 14/09/2018 07:30

I feel like I am living in some dystopian nightmare. Surely any day now all those 'woke folk' are going to put out a statement saying

'Sorry for the derail the last couple of years. We just needed to know how ridiculous we could be before people started to disagree with us. You have to admit we got pretty far down the road before the general populace noticed how ridiculous things were getting. You can all go back to normality now, women don't have penises, and we aren't going to allow any more rapists in women's prisons. As you were. And well done feminists, you saw us'.

FermatsTheorem · 14/09/2018 07:36

This student union officer gets the immediate boot for sharing a Spectator article on Twitter, yet a national student union officer, Jess Bradley got their ladypenis out in their workplace and posted actual photos online and 6 weeks later the investigation is still ongoing.

Yes Betty the double standards are mind-blowing, aren't they?

Bit like the JK Rowling thread where wee woke wazzock Owl is brushing off Karen White's multiple rapes and sexual assaults of female prisoners when he was put in a women's prison as "not a trans issue at all, just one of those things that happens because we have some bad people in society," while at the same time vilifying JKR for liking a newspaper article by Janice Turner.

I have come to the conclusion that some of these people aren't just stupid, aren't just a bit nutty, aren't just so open-minded their brains have fallen out. Some of them are actually evil. When you dismiss putting a rapist in a women's prison as "just one of those things" but call for the wrath of Khan to fall on a woman for wrongthink, you're not just being a bit stupid, you are indicating the depths of your sheer and utter hatred for women.

TerfsUp · 14/09/2018 07:41

That is horrible, Angelos. I hope that justice and common sense prevail and that you are reinstated.

Charley50 · 14/09/2018 08:15

It's all insane. Every new thing I read just gets more and more shocking. How have these threatening, bullying, horrible men with penises, who may or may not wear dresses, got so much power?
How have they managed to infer homophobia when challenged, when most of them aren't even gay?
I just don't get it. All the arguments against GRA are so clear and such common sense. The TRA's are like a gaslighting abusive partner. How can anyone have not seen through it by now?
This rant could have gone on any of the trans threads btw. It's all so awful.

Beesandfrogsandfleas · 14/09/2018 08:22

I think my head can’t spin any more, and then there it goes again.
A bad time to be a student I think.

Knicknackpaddyflak · 14/09/2018 09:16

Needs to go straight to court proceedings for wrongful dismissal. Lets hear a judge's opinion on 'sacked for stating an unwanted fact', and 'normal expectations and legislation around sexism (like safeguarding and common sense) don't count when the magic word 'trans' is invoked'. It's like being lost in a fucking game of dungeons and dragons with a lot of very tedious teenagers.

silentcrow · 14/09/2018 09:42

Did Humanists UK ever make a statement on this? Because I have an email waiting for a reply here and I'm prepared to go nuclear if not.

AbsintheFriends · 14/09/2018 09:52

Is there a list anywhere of people who have been booted out of their jobs for wrongthink? It would be a useful resource to call upon, and a fecking lengthy one by now.

Entirely agree with your post flippinfumin

Datun · 14/09/2018 10:02

This commenter nailed it.

I for one am absolutely enthusiastic for the new totalitarian order. You lesbians were being so selfish by keeping my penis out of your hot, hot girl-on-girl scenes! Now I can just “identify” as a lesbian-with-a-penis and you bitches HAVE to let me in, or you are bigots and bad things will happen to you.

BONUS: Since biological sex no longer exists, I can’t possibly be accused of sex-based oppression anymore, can I?

AngryAttackKittens · 14/09/2018 10:05

This case is particularly ironic in that the history of Western philosophy began with a bunch of philosophers arguing vigorously. Aristotle would be ashamed of them.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 14/09/2018 10:09

The comments are excellent.
The majority are not buying this shit.

AbsintheFriends · 14/09/2018 11:09

Exactly AAK - surely philosophy IS argument. Testing ideas. Debating them.

They're going to dictate themselves out of a living if they're not careful. Enjoy ur erasure, philosophers.

PlantsArePeopleToo · 14/09/2018 13:48

So this is not a piss take then?

Jesus Christ...

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CrackpotsArePots · 14/09/2018 14:22

Thingybob

Excellent film. Very apposite - thanks for linking

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