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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Posie Parker - brilliant rant

327 replies

MawkishTwaddle · 11/09/2018 19:41

I love this. Particularly her point about cognitive dissonance.

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thenightsky · 12/09/2018 10:03

Brilliant! Cannot believe MN have banned her though Shock

BesmirchingMotherhood · 12/09/2018 10:14

It was Posie’s last permanent ban a few years ago that peak transed me - I couldn’t believe someone could be banned for speaking what is so clearly common sense.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 12/09/2018 10:32

I really like poise. I thank her for all that she does on behalf of women.

However.... I think it’s a bit rich of her to tell people to confront in their places of employment. Poise said herself she wouldn’t have a job for 5 minutes with the gender diversity- well many of us NEED a job. We need to feed our children and pay our bills.. we are operating in a world where we have no choice.
Poise wants to try that for a while.

Also I don’t need posies “permission” any more than I need anyone else’s to say what I think.

Apart from that, I enjoyed it and she said pretty much how I feel everyday in a way that would. Flowers

As you were.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 12/09/2018 10:33

*i would

Blush
VickyMcQueen · 12/09/2018 10:35

She’s really banned from here?! 😡

Annasgirl · 12/09/2018 10:50

Oh this is so amazing. My first time seeing Posie and I want to be her best friend forever!!!

She is saying what I and many many others are thinking.

I've become so enraged and feel I need to get involved, to get vocal and active. We need to be like the suffragettes and get out there against the prevailing opinion. And thankfully my teenage DD is of the same opinion.

However, I am back in Uni doing Psychology and am appalled at the groupthink which prevails in University. I am even afraid that my expressions of my opinion will prevent me from getting a job as a counsellor - how sad.

NameChangedAgain18 · 12/09/2018 10:59

However.... I think it’s a bit rich of her to tell people to confront in their places of employment. Poise said herself she wouldn’t have a job for 5 minutes with the gender diversity- well many of us NEED a job. We need to feed our children and pay our bills.. we are operating in a world where we have no choice.

My thoughts exactly. If I don’t have my job, we lose our home.

terryleather · 12/09/2018 11:00

However.... I think it’s a bit rich of her to tell people to confront in their places of employment. Poise said herself she wouldn’t have a job for 5 minutes with the gender diversity- well many of us NEED a job. We need to feed our children and pay our bills.. we are operating in a world where we have no choice.
Poise wants to try that for a while.

I must admit that jumped out at me too BeerIncome but it's still a rant of sublime magnificence.

terryleather · 12/09/2018 11:01

Cross post with NameChange!

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 12/09/2018 11:03

What Rosie says... I agree with.
I wish I could rip posters off walls. I wish I could rant about clocks and remove toilet signs.
I wish I could do all that and still be the adult provider my dc need.
I can’t.

Poise is in a position of privilege. I’m glad we’ve got her. I’m glad she’s able to fight the fight for my dds and others, and I’ll suppirt it every way I can.
But poise would do well to remember her privileges.

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 12/09/2018 11:05

*Posie

Blush sorry- I’m doing 10 things at once....

terry I bow 🙇‍♀️ to the magnificence

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 12/09/2018 11:06

*COCK people Grin

ChilliJamandAvocado · 12/09/2018 11:07

Can't believe Posie is banned from MN, I'm sure I saw her fairly recently on the boards.

Brilliant video, I wish I had the eloquence and coherency to speak like that when I've got something impassioned to say... my brain turns to gibbering mush.

Gin Cake Wine Brew in holding for Posie for when I have the chance to meet her.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 12/09/2018 11:09

It was a rant after all :) In other words - it was a spontaneous and not scripted, angry and not measured speech done in the heat of the moment. There are likely bits that don't add up or which are not as well thought out as they could be - but maybe wait until the book comes out before you get too upset about them...

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 12/09/2018 11:14

I'm struggling with the idea that young women facilitating a feminist conference are happy to say they're centring men.

"The world has gone mad today
And good's bad today,
And black's white today,
And day's night today,"

Also - Posie has fabulous hair. Envy

FannyFifer · 12/09/2018 11:16

Just posting so u can find this again to listen later.

Ariclock · 12/09/2018 11:16

I've watched this two times already. She's brilliantly frank and honest with her views and it's so refreshing to listen to someone who isn't monitoring their language when talking about sex and gender.

BeyondAnOmnishambles · 12/09/2018 11:18

D'ya know dance, I had anything goes stuck in my head the other day and noticed the significance Grin

doedoe90303811 · 12/09/2018 11:20

"But posie would do well to remember her privileges."

I think it's helpful for her to be unembarrassed about her privilege. We don't really need women saying 'well I'm more privileged than this person'.

It's sufficient for her to focus on her topic, which is the erasure of women, without having to feel reticent that she's not as oppressed as, say, a woman in Saudi Arabia.

UpstartCrow · 12/09/2018 11:34

Posie said 'tell women they can have boundaries'. If you choose to stay silent at work and aren't even prepared to say that much then please, don't come here and complain about how other women should check their privilege.

Bowednotbroken · 12/09/2018 11:42

Brilliant rant from Posie. Thank you OP for sharing. It's not right that she's banned at all.

iamawoman · 12/09/2018 11:44

Brilliant - said it all exactly how I would like to say it if I was brave enough. No stupid identity politics speak or word salad.

What I want to know is what is wrong with all these womanchild feminists that they cannot compute or admit why you cannot allow penises into spaces where girls and women require privacy .

Beerincomechampagnetastes · 12/09/2018 11:47

Perhaps .. check her privilege is the wrong words.
I’m perhaps not as eloquent as some about expressing my feelings.

However, I stand by my opinion and what I said above.

Ineedacupofteadesperately · 12/09/2018 11:47

It's sufficient for her to focus on her topic, which is the erasure of women, without having to feel reticent that she's not as oppressed as, say, a woman in Saudi Arabia.

Yes, she can't reply on here but I'm pretty sure it's impossible in such a splendid rant to think through all possible sources of offense in what she's saying. If you worry about in what ways you might be more privileged than any and all hypothetical listeners you'd never speak up, and that's why we're here. I'm pretty sure that if you said to Posie " I'd love to speak out but if I did I'd lose my job and home" she'd reply along the lines of "of course, I really just want to encourage everyone to be braver where they can" or something.

UpstartCrow · 12/09/2018 11:51

Posie said 'tell women they can have boundaries'.

If your job is at such risk that you can't even say that, then you can post 'my job is so precarious that I cannot say 'its ok to have boundaries'.

If you want to take action you could add 'is there anything I can do?'

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