Do you recognise yourself?

[jasminemaya]

This trans journalist had a chance encounter with a supporter of WPUK. Was this one of you lot?

Really thoughtful article - division into two camps without engaging with each other is not the answer.

www.independent.co.uk/voices/anti-trans-abuse-lgbt-rights-non-binary-public-dawn-butler-still-here-a8531236.html

Can't argue with the logic so resort to ad hominem... I imagined better of you guys.

I would have thought an invitation for dialogue from a trans person rather than #nodebate would be welcomed

And how many of us GC women would be assaulted, threatened with rape, photographed or sworn at during this dialogue? Because this is what keeps happening to us.

My DH has a lesbian auntie who's Catholic and she seems to be treated pretty well by her congregation (possibly in part because she does donate to various fundraising efforts, and her partner is an excellent cook and baker who likes to feed people).

I'm sure one of you genteel ladies could put the point across well

We see you.

jasminemaya, no you didn't. Any suggestion you make of coming here today to engage in an actually productive conversation is a bare faced lie.

You have no logic. You haven't said anything logical at all here. If you came here for a proper dialogue, why did you launch a thread with an accusatory question, instead of a post saying what it is you think GC posters have right and attempt to meet in the middle?

"Can't argue with the logic so resort to ad hominem... I imagined better of you guys."

Ha ha ha ha ha. "You've let me down, you've let feminism down, but worst of all, you've let yourself down."

So let's see - this thread's gone through "you lot" please doxx yourselves, to "you're paranoid", through various epicycles of "I'm just trying to be nice and open a dialogue here", to insulting someone's religious faith, to back peddling on that, to "genteel ladies" to "you're just resorting to ad hominem attacks" when we point out the whiplash from the change of tactics from one post to the next.

I mean, that "genteel ladies" stuff isn't even nasty in a subtle way, it's just straight up hostile.

I don’t identify as genteel.

Can’t speak for anyone else though.

If I attempted to identify as genteel my family would disown me.

GENTEEL GULAG GIRL GANG

I'm going to attempt to identify as genteel this evening and time how long it takes for my kids to ask if I have a stick up my arse.

guys?

make your mind up

laydeees as per the dj down the frog and ferret on a friday
or guys as per an overconfident work meeting facilitator wearing chinos

?

Chino-wearing Deejay say ‘ladyguys’?

Can't argue with the logic so resort to ad hominem... I imagined better of you guys

You haven't said anything logical yet

Youve just been a bit snarky...and had a pop at christians

Say something logical and maybe someone will reply sensibly, i wouldnt hold out a lot of hope for that

vision into two camps without engaging with each other is not the answer

I agree with this bit

Was this the logical bit...please dont make me reread the thread, i know its not long but im tired

Dialogue is it?

Ok, OP. You first.

division into two camps without engaging with each other is not the answer

is one of the camps a gulag?

and the other maybe GG trip?

Shitfuckpisswankcuntandbollocks.

That's me being genteel. I'm renowned for my gentility.

That is not what you are renowned for lang

But OP, I asked you a question at the bottom of page 2, which would have been an excellent place to start a dialogue, but you still haven’t answered. Would you like to have a stab at answering the question? Then we might be able to get some dialogue going.
As a gesture of good will, in answer to the question in the OP, no, it wasn’t me. I was out leafleting this weekend, but not in the evening and not on Friday.

(whispers)) Weetabix

STOP IT ANGRY

FFS, the CofE has transgender vicars. Look up Rachel Mann, who is also a Canon of Manchester Cathedral, which means she’s senior and respected among the clergy.

I saw a box of Weetabix with bananas already added the other day, and I thought to myself, mmm, hot milk would make that a really genteel snack.