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Goldsmiths LGBT society says feminists should be sent to a gulag.

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DJLippy · 10/09/2018 21:41

Goldsmiths, home of witch hunting transwoman Natasha Kennedy needs to sort itself out.

Last night they started harassing a load of 'T*rfs' on Twitter and then today they suggested they might like to spend some time in a gulag - before going on to write a rather long, propaganda piece in their defense.

twitter.com/lgbtqgold/status/1039140880731521025.

I didn't think leftists like this actually existed.

Is this a real account?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3359116-The-Times-smear-campaign-by-trans-lecturer-at-Goldsmiths

Goldsmiths LGBT society says feminists should be sent to a gulag.
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DJLippy · 11/09/2018 00:52

Oh God, guess who's doing kinkshame re-education workshops
www.haileyheartless.com/play-styles

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ErrolTheDragon · 11/09/2018 00:55

Has anyone commented on the irony of people glibly talking about 're-education' who somehow seem to have managed to miss out on important chunks of education?

LassWiADelicateAir · 11/09/2018 01:08

The replies are outstanding. Too many to choose from but I liked this one. And one which bemusedly asked if Goldsmiths charges fees.

Mattias Nybble
@MattiasNybble
Replying to
@lgbtqgold
Just when you thought you've seen every kind of stupid shit on Twitter this account comes in to say "hold my beer"...

bd67th · 11/09/2018 01:09

The first Butler reference was on page 2. Page 2 FFS. I have never read such patronising nonsense in my life. It's the academic equivalent of when you go to an art gallery and look at a painting and think "a five year old could do better than that". The countryside isn't "essentialised" as different from urban places, it is empirically different, one can measure things like trees per square km, different animal species per square km, percentage of paved surface per square km. But no, paint people's valid concerns about material changes to their local environment as "essentialisation" of "social constructs" of "natural" and "urban" so you can figure out how to coerce compliance through "de-essentialisation" rhetoric.

If you can get access to the full article (your local library might have access), read it, it's a disturbing insight into how "social construct" arguments can be used to shift the goalposts for any argument.

LassWiADelicateAir · 11/09/2018 01:13

It is fascinating to watch this leaking into "normal" Twitter.

David Aaronovich was an early responder and Anne Applebaum is there too.

ToeToToe · 11/09/2018 01:24

Ha, they deleted it.

I've got the screenshots

MsBeee · 11/09/2018 01:26

They deleted it, but guess what i took screen shots. I only did the LGBT bit of it unfortunately ( the replies were classic ) so for anyone who missed it here we go

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MsBeee · 11/09/2018 01:27

Oh pants im a bit crap at this try again

MsBeee · 11/09/2018 01:27

Try again

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MsBeee · 11/09/2018 01:28

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MsBeee · 11/09/2018 01:29

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ToeToToe · 11/09/2018 01:32

Weirdly, it's still showing on their own twitter feed. Somehow the link is broken to the OP.

MsBeee · 11/09/2018 01:38

Oh dear, having props doing this. ToeToTeo would you be up for posting them.

NotMeOhNo · 11/09/2018 01:41

My not very pomo understanding is that "essentialism" is when you boil something down to conventionally established "facts" that need to be questioned in light of racism/sexism/etc. So they're arguing that scientific "facts" are only "facts" because they've been invented or prioritised by the white Western Canon. A reasonable de-essentialising of science is to say that phrenology was bullshit.
But these cluckers say that reproductive categories of mammals is bullshit.

Does anyone know what mrkhtake meant by "tankies"?

BlazeAway · 11/09/2018 01:42

They've protected their account, that's why. Can't say I blame them — if I were a committee member and spotted that going on I'd be trying to lock it down as quickly as I could too!

ToeToToe · 11/09/2018 01:44

Your pics are showing MsBeee Smile

I can see them.

ToeToToe · 11/09/2018 01:45

Tankies = people that defend Stalin/Communist USSR.

Far left nutters.

ToeToToe · 11/09/2018 01:50

"So apparently @lgbtqgold decided to send their account to the gulag?"

Thank you Twitter - sometimes, you are outstanding. Grin

BlazeAway · 11/09/2018 02:01

I would not like to be the person trying to sort this mess out. Term hasn't even started yet!

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DJLippy · 11/09/2018 02:27

Protected for the sake of safegaurding? WTAF.

Getting called out for your BS is twansfobic abuse? A hate crime? Must be great to have a made up identity that inculcates your from all criticism ever.

I can't wait for their first line manager when they get their first proper job...

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MsBeee · 11/09/2018 02:50

Ha, protecting them from rightly deserved ridicule, maybe they are having a meeting with the history department about the mix up between a mini break at a spa and a gulag.

thecatfromjapan · 11/09/2018 03:19

It's gone. Which is a shame.

I agree with Fermat: it was disturbing.

For anyone who didn't see it, the thread was quite long and stuffed with assertions which sounded very much as though whoever was tweeting had been doing 'research' somewhere. And that begs the question: where?

My guess would be some weird and worrying corner of the internet where Stalinism was being reinterpreted as far less horrifying than we now know it was.

That's worrying. That's a university graduate, without the sense to access any of the legitimate texts on Stalinism, or first-hand accounts of the gulags, that exist. And remember, Goldsmith's is in London, with the British Library.

So that's a university student, who has spent time hunting down and poring over weird-as-fuck websites and thinks they are an equivalent, in terms of truth status, as many accredited pieces of research and first-hand documents.

That is worrying. It points to a deep problem with understanding how to spot 'fake news', propaganda, and understanding what true research is and looks like. And that latter, of course, should be at the very base of what university education is about.

Honestly, Goldsmiths has a problem bigger than a massively anti-feminist LGBTQ+ Group.

That is a thread that really, really shouldn't be happening. And I think it points to something having gone a bit wrong with people's understanding of what 'truth' is. ☹️

AngryAttackKittens · 11/09/2018 03:31

So it turns out that in the minds of the gender warriors the "right side of history" is gulags?

When people show you who they are believe them, ffs.

MsBeee · 11/09/2018 03:32

There was a website reference on it, that they had used. Here it

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bd67th · 11/09/2018 03:35

university graduate No, srudent.

I'll tell you who is a Goldsmiths graduate though: Tara "the terf slayer" Wood. That's right, the Deliveroo courier who was begging for crowdfunder money for voice surgery and whacked Skepticat. Clearly h* Goldsmiths degree (assuming graduation here) did so much to make h* employable.