Dr Nicola Williams on BBC2 at 10.15, Victoria Live

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Twitter thread here: twitter.com/AskNic/status/1039073161252364288

Reporting WPUK is just more wasting of police time, surely?

Like the razor blades under stickers nonsense.

Crack on I say. The more sunlight we shine on this the better.

I'm not clear that Tara really has much understanding of what Tara's motivation is beyond What Tara Wants Tara Gets. But men's problems are not women's to sort out.

So clearly not a women's prison no. Somewhere else.

In what way are a woman's place terrorists?
This is get beyond a joke now. I want to wake up from this horrible strange nightmare.
Stating biological facts is not hate.
Someone please tell me the police won't take that seriously

ah, I suppose if MN is indeed a "radicalisation portal" it makes perfect sense to an idiot that WPUK should be reported to the police for investigation alongside Britain First and Al Mujahideen

'They are regarded in the same category as Britain First'

Fascinating use of the passive voice here. The reader is encouraged to think it's the counter terrorism unit doing the regarding. Whereas actually it's the 'terminally deluded unit'.

The comparison of WPUK with Britain First is interesting actually. With Britain First, all that was needed to do is allow people to actually see what they were saying. The FB page 'Exposing Britain First' simply contained screenshots, or sometimes a link to show that what BF were saying was factually bullshit, or a link to show that a video on the BF page was in fact not of what the page was saying it was etc. And of course everyone was free to go on the BF page and be horrified for themselves. It was called 'Exposing BF' because that was all that was needed to totally discredit them. Exposure.

The TRAs cannot do that. They cannot set up pages called 'Exposing WPUK'. They know that exposure of what WPUK and other women are saying will show that what they are saying makes perfect sense. The only thing they can do is flail around, sharing blocklists, begging people not to engage with WP, saying the words 'extremist hate group' over and over again in the hope that people will just hear those words and not engage their critical brain to look any further.

It really does say it all.

Actually, that's a really good idea. Shall we start "exposing WPUK?" Just keep letting the light in...

I see VD has at put a section on Twitter about the trans rapist. Nothing about the finder flip, though someone has asked her about it. 😁

Yes, I just spent a bit of time on the #ukteli site and it was so odd the quotes it chose to highlight from mumsnet.

twitter.com/VictoriaLIVE Its on Victoria Live's twitter. an edited version. Still not on player. VictoriaLIVE is getting hammered on twitter by TRA

VictoriaLIVE is getting hammered on twitter by TRA

Is that so? I mean if they absolutely want to completely lose VD as a supporter that’s exactly the way to go about it. The time has passed when they could intimidate people into silence through abuse and harassment. Too many voices are starting to speak out.

Head butting a barman: classic stereotypical female behaviour there.
I am sorry for the barman but some of these descriptions are making me chuckle. Tara needs a regular tv slot for some of this behaviour.
It will save everyone hours of making cogent arguments about males in female spaces. Perhaps she can present question time next.

Like the razor blades under stickers nonsense.

Police statement:
10 Sep 2018 15:43
"Sticker claims - Manchester Oxford Road
British Transport Police (BTP) were made aware of a tweet – dated 5 September – stating that stickers, with razor blades behind them, were put up in the toilets of Manchester Oxford Road train station.

Officers have attended the station to investigate this claim and have confirmed there is no evidence of this.

BTP has a tried and tested system in place for dealing with hoaxes designed to cause minimum disruption whilst ensuring the safety of members of the public and rail staff.

Nevertheless, hoaxers waste considerable police time and divert our much-needed resources from other duties. We will continue to monitor the situation and will take further action should this malicious activity continue."

media.btp.police.uk/r/15860/sticker_claims_-manchester_oxford_road

VictoriaLIVE is getting hammered on twitter by TRAs
Is that so? I mean if they absolutely want to completely lose VD as a supporter that’s exactly the way to go about it.

Worth considering the Victoria Derbyshire Show about young people which demonstrated apparent uniquivocal support for Mermaids.

July 2018
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3294478-Victoria-Derbyshire-show-today-transgender-children-buying-time-by-delaying-puberty

R0wan they are on it! we'll sit back and rest our lady brains while TRA

peaky peak peak another and another and another .....................

Thanks Rowantrees. I didn’t see that one, but I did see another episode which had a woman speaking about her PTSD and time in a women’s refuge, and the difference in VD’s attitude seems pretty clear to me.

I wonder how much of the shift in attitudes is entirely due to the behaviour of the TRAs? And whether those who have peaked after previously ignoring the warnings of GC feminists will ever have enough self-awareness to have a look at themselves?

Bit incoherent tonight, sorry

Well, I have to commend the weasel-wording of Sue Pascoe's tweet.

I'm sure she wouldn't be surprised to learn that most people would interpret that phrasing in a way that makes it seem that the Police Counter-Terrorist Unit has classified WPUK as a hate group etc. on a par with Britain First.

Seriously, C4? You're entrusting your reputation to somebody who writes tweets like that?

Similarly to the hoaxes that waste Police time, is there really no consequence for time wasters who make nuisance reports to the UK Prevent programme?

If the weasel-worded Sue Pascoe tweet is any litmus test as to the quality of the reports made to them, then I'm no longer startled by the claim earlier this year that Far Right Referrals to the Prevent Programme Are Up By More Than A Quarter : More than 965 people referred to counter-extremism programme in year to March 2017

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/27/far-right-referrals-prevent-programme-up-by-more-than-a-quarter-counter-extremism

I'm actually reassured by that Pasco tweet.

That level of deceit indicates a blindness that will be their undoing.

And telling the teachers.

Jeeps

I wonder how much of the shift in attitudes is entirely due to the behaviour of the TRAs?

I look upon them as a gift. Imagine trying to work in the media with people who behave like that. And how many people are involved in creating each programme go WTF ? Then go home and say "you'll never guess... what a twat !"

And that's before you think of the viewers.

The thing I am not sure about is, is it always gobshites to the mike for their team because..

• The gobshites are particularly sharp elbowed and have jostled their way to the front ahead of the milder, more reasonable types?

• Being a gobshite is an obligatory attribute in TRAlandia.

If the second, do they join the band pre-loaded with gobshite-itus ? Or do they develop it, like a sort of group contagion effect is going on ?

Whatever the cause, more power to its elbow. Every little "fuck you" and middle finger on camera helps.

Nopes they just idiots. And seen live idiots

Foot soldiers

That silent rant with middle finger ties in so nicely with all the hanging around staircases in black facemasks.

Foot soldiers

Yes. But why are the generals, who skulk in the deeper shadows, picking these ones to stick in front of a camera ?

I'm leaning towards lack for choice. We may be seeing the most reasonable talking heads they've got to offer.

By no stretch of the imagination can all idiots be called "useful". So many own goals I'm losing count.