Has Dh out-feministed me, what do you think?

[TooMuchPenis]

Just reading this article and this woman thinks the flight attendant was wrong to call her 'Miss". I think the flight attendant was trying to get 200 people on an airline and probably did quite well to get 'Yes, Miss O'dwyer' out before pointing her in the general direction of her seat.

unless I am mistaken and someone literally changed her boarding card to read Miss instead of Dr I don't think this is the crime of the century. in a conversation, I could totally understand her annoyance with someone getting it wrong but this is just someone misspeaking while under pressure? I also think her original tweet calling the woman a "trolly dolley" way more offensive to women and working class people and this whole thing reads less like feminism and more like "don't you know who I am!".

Dh says if you go to school for 8 years it's the least you can expect and this is the same as me getting offended when people instist on calling me miss after I have corrected them to Ms.* So who's right?

www.indy100.com/article/doctor-medicine-calls-out-airline-qantas-everyday-sexism-controversy-reaction-twitter-8525826

*For the record, I'd have no issue whatsoever if someone called me Miss in the rush instead of Ms in this situation which is again why it feels less about feminism than about academic credentials.

Has anyone ever been addressed by name and/or title by a stewardess when boarding plane??

I haven't.

It's usually just a direction given.

Nope I haven't.

And that's fine.

No and that's fine. The airline was Qantas. I've never flown with them.

I've been on Quantas a couple times and dont' remember them doing that.

It is one of the posher ones though I think and I'm usually an easyjet kind of a person

Well, yes that. The flight attendant was unlikely to assume all the women doctors she was seeing regularly were impersonators. Also google tells me that there are more female gps than male so probably an awfully common sight

Read this then:
time.com/4538567/female-doctor-medical-emergency-airline-racism-sexism/

the statistics I quoted were for Australia as it's an Australian airline, Time is an American magazine and all of those women are poc, unlike the white woman in the story. Additionally, someone's bias may well come out when they are trying to find someone to perform in a medical situation, but I still don't think they'd be so concerned as to deliberately mis title someone because she couldn't possibly be a doctor. Of course anything is possible but I think it is very unlikely. A male flight attendant would be very aware of gendered employment prejudices and a female flight attendant will likely have asked for a female doctor on many occasions.

That would never happen to a man who had 'Dr' on his ticket, whether it was a medical title or not.

Nonsense. It happens to DH all the time and he's never posted on twitter about it.

The fundamental problem is structural sexism, not whether one airline employee made one mistake. Women's achievements are routinely dismissed. Women are accused of snobbery if they use titles they've worked for, such as Dr or Professor.

When men are accused of similar snobbery, or addressed as Mr instead of Dr, it's not against a background of everyday devaluing. And I think there was a campaign on Twitter recently for female academics to change their user names to include the title Dr to address online devaluing. So that's also part of the context.

I like the anonymity of Mumsnet where no one's credentials are verifiable and we need to evaluate arguments on their quality alone. But we have unlimited characters to make those arguments. I'm rambling now, but I still think the academic at the centre of this was not unreasonable to raise the issue in Twitter. And, as always, posting online about feminism generates responses that demonstrate the need for feminism.

Agree this actually happens to men, too. My husband (when traveling for work and the agency puts the title Dr. on his ticket) gets called Mr. fairly often.

As for me, I don't use the title Dr. unless I'm in a professional situation. If you're coming in to my office to seek my medical advice, yes, I'm Dr. Fayne, and I would hope my recommendations mean something to you. If I'm traveling to Hawaii, I'm just Mrs. Fayne, and my request for an ice water is no more important or necessary than the person across the aisle, whether he or she is a fellow physician or a sanitation worker. We're both humans.