The Times - smear campaign by trans lecturer at Goldsmiths

[tiredandweary]

The Times reporting on the smear campaign against academics run by 'Natacha Kennedy' of Goldsmiths. Given how movingly women academics have written here about the fear and intimidation they experience working in universities, how good to see the source of the bullying exposed. share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics-f2zqbl222?shareToken=c2e850050d0c9913ecbcbbb9b0e9ccfb

And a brilliant article by Janice Turner about dangerous trans rapists in women's jails:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-rapists-are-a-danger-in-women-s-jails-5vhgh57pt?shareToken=a5c5b379f8c0f6ccd446176a676344e6

So pleased that I took out a subscription to the Times.

[VickyEadie]

I'sm staggered - staggered I tell you - that a "bolshie transgirl" (sic) who has conducted a nasty hate campaign aimed at discrediting fellow academics also uses their male name for work purposes.

Apart from anything else, isn't this person literally killing himself-herself?

(NB Mumsnet - I can say that because this person uses their original male name when it suits them)

[TerfsUp]

I am pretty sure Mark is in his 40s.

I would put Mark's age closer to late 50s.

[deepwatersolo]

All the named academics were women.

That is an unproven assertion. Given their jobs those academics apparently like taking charge and are rational, so it is quite plausible that they are, actually, men. Targetted by the caring woman Natacha Kennedy, who likes to take part.

The victimization of men by women really knows no bounds.

[speakingwoman]

Wow, Goldsmiths!

[MinecraftHolmes]

Given their jobs those academics apparently like taking charge and are rational, so it is quite plausible that they are, actually, men.

Or Northern...

[carceralfeminist]

Yes to the Times, Lucy and Janice!!!!!!
Thanks for the share token OP!
Excellent!
Especially impressed by the angle of exposing TRA silencing tactics.
Will never recommend Goldsmith's to anyone if this is their attitude to academic freedom. Hopefully this will wake up the "free speech" crowd.
The comments . If politicians have ANY sense left in their skulls, they'll stop this nonsense.

[ChattyLion]

Given the excellent lead of the universities who ARE supporting the witch hunting against gender critical thought- (particularly when expressed by female academics ) -

is it time for a public petition of the universities who will NOT follow this lead- ie those institutions who require fettered speech, who support victimisation of peaceful gender critical dissenters and require and enforce the telling of lies by their staff about biology and its impact on women?

[TimeLady]

*Should we introduce children to the concept of transgender people? The answer is yes according to an article published in the December 2010 issue of the peer-reviewed Graduate Journal of Social Science.
The article by Natacha Kennedy and Mark Hellen, entitled “Transgender Children: More Than a Theoretical Challenge,” *

www.huffingtonpost.com/joanne-herman/should-we-teach-children-_b_805133.html

Both names cited. Unbelievable. Surely Natacha's/Mark's credibility as an academic is shot by that duplicity, which appears to have been going on for years.

[deepwatersolo]

Or Northern...

Right, I forgot about that possibility. Northern. Or autistic. Yeh, who knows, they might be women after all...

[SPOFS]

I wonder what would happen at Goldsmith's if a student wrote a gender critical paper? Would they be disiplined?

[Biologifemini]

Stuff like this doesn’t do a university’s reputation much good.

Of course the vice chancellor cannot do anything without being labelled transphobic so Mark/Natacha will likely have a job for life. Happy days.

[Datun]

*I'm convinced this name was chosen as a nod to a fetish. 'The Natachas' (or Natashas) is a term used to describe victims of sex trafficking.

See, this is the hiding in plain sight that goes on. The arrogance is breathtaking.

Paris Lees - Paris Sleaze
Ana Lee - Anally
Shon Faye and Jane Fae - apparently fae has some hidden, underground meaning that I can't remember.

[MsBeaujangles]

I'm having a problem with the link. It takes me to a page saying the article was available for a limited time and suggests it was published on 23 March 2017.

Any clues what is going on?

[littlbrowndog]

Young and mischievous I googled
Don’t know I& that is correct thouhj

[deepwatersolo]

I'm having a problem with the link.

It worked before. This works now (for me, at least):

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics-f2zqbl222

[MsBeaujangles]

Thanks Deep!

[CAAKE]

Datun

[Datun]

CAAKE

Yes I read that. The role-playing part struck a chord.

But I can't help thinking it was something more significant. I've taken to screenshotting things I think l'll forget now!

[LangCleg]

Jen Isaacson has a chapter in the book Transgender Children and Young People in which she describes experiences as a GNC undergraduate at Goldsmiths. A couple of quotes:

During my undergraduate degree at the Media & Communications department at Goldsmiths University, I was repeatedly understood to be transgender. This would, at times, take the form of curiosity: "Are you a boy?" "No? A b.o.i,?" "No, I mean are you a boy or a girl?" These are invasive questions that occur regularly to androgynous individuals. Other times it would be mocking comments: "Oh, that ladies bag really suits you. Don't you think you're bad at being a trans guy with that?"

In 2016, I shared a lift with Polly Carmichael, head of Tavistock GIC. Looking at me, she asked "Are you a service user?" Short hair and an attire from Top Man somehow now indicates not a COMFORT with gender non-conformity but a necessary discomfort and conflict and a wish to transition.

Jen also has this to say about another Goldsmiths staff member this morning. Er... hmmm.

twitter.com/isacsohn/status/1038268527193538560

[FlippinFumin]

I wonder what would happen at Goldsmith's if a student wrote a gender critical paper? Would they be disiplined

I would not have passed my degree there, my whole dissertation was gender critical.

It is a serious question though, what about feminism? What about questioning the idea of patriarchy, surely this would be taught and criticised not only in feminism but in politics and the social sciences? Has the whole of the university gone mad? What on earth do they teach? Or is it only gender studies and you have to agree that anyone is a woman if they say they are and you are given a first?

[MsBeaujangles]

In fairness to Polly Carmichael, it is very difficult to distinguish between staff and patients at The Tavistock. Although it is a working hospital, the distinction isn't clear between students, patients and staff, other than when they are clearly children. Staff are explicitly told not to make assumptions.

If Polly had assumed she was a service user, that would be one thing, but she asked, considering it a possibility. I assume she asked because it would have relevance for the following discussion. I see nothing wrong with this

[arranfan]

I could weep for the young people in those Kennedy secret groups.

Just how far from the path of decent behaviour have you strayed when you're plotting to accuse academics of hate crime. Putting aside the reality that hate crimes have to be the add-on charge to a crime - grief knows if they'd thought through that they'd have to lie about a crime as well - what sense of morality or appropriateness do these young people have?

Is this what they think university is? Playing with people's lives and careers as if they're sub-plots on House of Cards ?

[VickyEadie]

arranfan

YY.

[deepwatersolo]

So, given that Natacha Kennedy / Mark Hellen used both, a a man's and a woman's identity, would I break Mumsnet-guidelines for using the pronouns he/him/his? (Not going to take any chances).

And how does Natacha/Mark's womanhood compare to Lucy/David's Challenor's womanhood (minor the criminal offence, of course), given that both identified as part-time female?

[LangCleg]

In fairness to Polly Carmichael, it is very difficult to distinguish between staff and patients at The Tavistock. Although it is a working hospital, the distinction isn't clear between students, patients and staff, other than when they are clearly children. Staff are explicitly told not to make assumptions.

Lift at Goldsmiths, not at GIDS.