The Times - smear campaign by trans lecturer at Goldsmiths

[tiredandweary]

The Times reporting on the smear campaign against academics run by 'Natacha Kennedy' of Goldsmiths. Given how movingly women academics have written here about the fear and intimidation they experience working in universities, how good to see the source of the bullying exposed. share token:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-goldsmiths-lecturer-natacha-kennedy-behind-smear-campaign-against-academics-f2zqbl222?shareToken=c2e850050d0c9913ecbcbbb9b0e9ccfb

And a brilliant article by Janice Turner about dangerous trans rapists in women's jails:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-rapists-are-a-danger-in-women-s-jails-5vhgh57pt?shareToken=a5c5b379f8c0f6ccd446176a676344e6

So pleased that I took out a subscription to the Times.

[TheProdigalKittensReturn]

I remember hearing about what Kennedy was up to at least 5 years ago. It's taken a while to get any sort of public attention but better late than never I suppose. Watch the dominos fall one by one as the sunlight streams in...

[TehBewilderness]

Anyone know why Materialist's post are all gone? Anyone remember them?

[RufustheRowlingReindeer]

Once a poster started a thread about pram recommendations

And then a few years later she revived the years dead thread and recommended a pram

To herself

[RufustheRowlingReindeer]

[quote againstvaw]@WhereYouLeftIt

Mumsnetters are so lucky to have a sentry like you to roar out a warning when you spy a danger.[/quote]
Nothing to do with danger

It can be annoying to get engaged with a thread that died a death months or years ago

[againstvaw]

@WhereYouLeftIt

Mumsnetters are so lucky to have a sentry like you to roar out a warning when you spy a danger.

[WhereYouLeftIt]

"Please don't yell at me."
Oh get a grip. I am alerting anyone who find this thread in their feed that it's a zombie.

You messed up, and now you've got a bag on. 'Deserve no such attention'! Are you channelling Lady Catherine De Bourgh?

[againstvaw]

@WhereYouLeftIt

Please don't yell at me.

I am sending you no explanations.. You deserve no such attention.

[againstvaw]

@dayoftheclownfish

Sorry, don't know how I included that quote. I meant to use this quote from Lang Cleg about Jen Isaacson and her experience as a young GNC woman of being expected to be trans. Jen wrote Chapter 11 of the book "Transgender Children and Young People".

Lang Cleg
"I read it again. Jen doesn't say this happened at Goldsmiths specifically, my apologies. But definitely not at a GIDS. She shared a lift (whether elevator or car not said) with Polly Carmichael. The implication of the paragraph is that Polly felt free to ask Jen whether or not she was a service user of a GIDS on the basis of her presentation alone, with no other information.

The chapter Jen contributed to the book is about the links between transgenderism, transhumanism and queer theory. She begins it by relating various anecdotes in which others assumed her to be trans by dint of presentation (short haircut/androgynous clothes) alone. The Carmichael story is one of them."

[WhereYouLeftIt]

ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT

ZOMBIE THREAD ALERT

@againstvaw -

1. Why did you resurrect this thread?

1. What has your comment ("Jen Isaacson is now suspended from Twitter.") got to do with the post you are quoting?

1. Who the fuck is Jen?

[dayoftheclownfish]

Who is Jen Isaacson? What was the suspension about? Sorry, thread‘s too long ...

[againstvaw]

@FlippinFumin

I wonder what would happen at Goldsmith's if a student wrote a gender critical paper? Would they be disiplined

I would not have passed my degree there, my whole dissertation was gender critical.

It is a serious question though, what about feminism? What about questioning the idea of patriarchy, surely this would be taught and criticised not only in feminism but in politics and the social sciences? Has the whole of the university gone mad? What on earth do they teach? Or is it only gender studies and you have to agree that anyone is a woman if they say they are and you are given a first?

Jen Isaacson is now suspended from Twitter.

[R0wantrees]

GayStar News article with quote from Claire Graham:
(extracts)
"That’s when intersex advocate and prolific Twitter user, @Mrkhtake2, whose real name is Claire Graham, stepped in. The Society had not included her on its list when she replied to it and received an unexpected response.

‘It was a bit tongue in cheek, but I replied to them saying “you sound a bit fascist”,’ Graham told Gay Star News. The Society quickly replied with: ‘Nah, we’ll just arrange to send you to the gulag.’ A smiley faced emoticon completed the tweet. (continues)

"It was unpleasant, it was the incredulity that they would argue against being labelled fascist,’ Graham said.

Graham argued their tweet ‘shows a mindset that’s problematic’."

"Graham said the Society’s ‘problematic’ views came at a time of intense national political debate about LGBTI people. The debate around gender self-recognition and proposed changes to the Gender Recognition Act has put the community under great ‘scrutiny’.

‘It doesn’t do any of us any favors, it plays into fears and stereotypes that people have (of the LGBTI community),’ she said.

Furthermore, as an intersex advocate and someone with an intersex condition, Graham does not want groups like the Goldsmiths LGBTQ+ Society representing her.

‘In the LGBTI community, we (intersex people) don’t have a loud voice and I prefer it if I wasn’t represented by those opinions,’ she said."

‘I have trans friends who are horrified by what’s happening,’ she said.


www.gaystarnews.com/article/well-send-you-to-the-gulag-lgbti-student-group-tells-intersex-advocate/#gs.OcMbUkc

[Xenia]

Sunset, well done to you. Even back in the 80s when we invited Thatcher ministers to our society at university there were large numbers of students trying to stop the talks going ahead. I want people at university including my twins who are current there (not at Goldsmiths) to express any views they want and be allowed to speak and that students should not be pushed into one "group think".

It is a similar issue to that you get in any groups including on MN and other places that there will be one view pushed and if you have a different one it becomes hard to express for fear of criticism or worse.


One reason I don't use twitter or facebook is one tiny comment can be held against you out of context and you can lose a career.

[Iused2BanOptimist]

Sandydrawsbadly on twitter: Goldsmiths the home of Gulags R Gud OK

[nauticant]

Did anyone take screenshots of the tweets on Monday referenced in the statement? The twitter account in question has been protected so only approved followers can see them.

Someone (not me) did: archive.is/zOGDg.

[LizzieSiddal]

Sorry I saw the DM link on twitter, I haven’t got a link myself.

[LizzieSiddal]

I’ve seen lots of screenshots on Twitter. The DM are also reporting on it and have printed screenshots.

[inquiquotiokixul]

Did anyone take screenshots of the tweets on Monday referenced in the statement? The twitter account in question has been protected so only approved followers can see them.

[SPOFS]

This looks like another own goal for the TRAs...

[SunsetBeetch]

This is quite a long twitter thread, but well worth the read

twitter.com/CraigWorman/status/1039451486919553024?s=19

Student politics at Goldsmiths. A hopefully short and insightful thread.

I started the Liberal Society at Goldsmiths after realising there were far more people right of centre than I previously thought. I had never known some people in my classes believed in the same things.

These people had never mentioned what they believed in before out of fear of social rejection.

I hoped to provide a broad church society for anyone right of centre to debate and befriend other like minded people.

I had over 70 people sign up in freshers week.

With around 50 actual members signed up we started organising events. I found this to be extremely difficult as the you have to essentially proof your speaker will not offend people. This is at the discretion of the university who can reject anyone they want.


I started to understand why people had hidden their beliefs. I was branded a Nazi by people once my friends and our events were heckled.

I hosted an event with @bswud from @ASI at the time on bias in the Labour market. This event was attended by our 30 lib members and 7 people from the Palestinian soc and feminist soc who branded the talk, our members and the speaker racist due to comments made by AS in 1700's.

After the talk they heckled my members at the pub (which I had to host it at because we couldn't get a university room) and said that I was a Nazi, calling me out on social media.

These same girls went to all of my lecturers to demand I be prevent from speaking as it violated their safe space. Luckily I was surprised to be defended by some fantastic lecturers who were defenders of free speech. They pointed out that I merely held liberal values.

My society slowly died as young first years students, understandably, did not like being called Nazis and racists. For clarification, the society had people of all backgrounds, genders, faiths and ethnicity.

In sum, Goldsmiths students are rotten to the core. The student body is fashionably extremists and few have any real conviction in their beliefs. This is why I was not shocked by the news today. This is a genuine reflection of the opinions held by the wider student body.

The news today is symptomatic the Goldsmiths SU being run by self declared communists for over 4 years. It's sad but also not limited to Goldsmiths. Its all across the UoL.

On a side note, these people would harass me and my members at the pub and at parties. sadly, some first year members decided to leave the uni after being socially blacklisted and scared of talking in lectures.

Our members were classical liberals, believing in free movement, free trade and low taxes but these things make you a Nazi at Goldsmiths.
END

[R0wantrees]

Goldsmith's Student Union Statement:

"Yesterday, Monday 10th September, a member of the LGBTQ+ Society with access to their Twitter account posted tweets containing offensive material. We condemn the abhorrent content of the tweets and they are in complete opposition to the views and values of the Students’ Union.

The Society have broken multiple Union policies and procedures, including failing to adhere to our code of conduct, and we have issued multiple requests for the group to delete the tweets. As such, the Society have been suspended and disaffiliated from the Students’ Union, pending investigation.

Societies are autonomous groups that operate with support of the Students’ Union, governed by our policies and procedures, but their views and behaviour is led by independent groups of students.

Following this, we will ensure that there is other support in place for LGBTQ+ students, including those starting at Goldsmiths later this month, by building networks and facilitating events led by our LGBTQ+ staff and students."

www.goldsmithssu.org/news/article/6013/Statement-on-LGBTQ43-Society/

[R0wantrees]

Goldsmiths & We Need to Talk Meeting which ended with Maria Machlachlan being assaulted by T. Wolf:

twitter.com/WNTTgra/status/1039446060542963712

[SPOFS]

Surely this may turn out to be a good thing? Next year, only the super woke LGBTANDTHEREST+ will choose to go to Goldsmiths, leaving the rest of the UK unis to get back to normal?

[hipsterfun]

Student Che Scott-Heron Newton, the daughter of late American jazz poet Gil Scott-Heron, led the criticism, calling the chicken shop tour a “gross exotification of local working-class culture”.

“My main point is that I felt that a poorer area of London’s culture was being mocked by this tour,” she told The Daily Telegraph.

Am I supposed to take this seriously?

[SophoclesTheFox]

they have to be taking the piss. that can’t be real.

But it surely is a Poe, because until they over reached with the gulag gag, i genuinely couldn’t tell.