BISH - "proudly supported by....."

[Candidpeel]

As @R0wantree linked to on the thread on crossing out 'gender' for 'sex' on school forms, but this deserves its own thread.

Take a look at 'BISH' website for teens.

www.bishuk.com/about-you/whats-your-gender/

Has a helpful diagram. People called 'he' and who look masculine tend to be tough, active and independent. People called 'she' and who look feminine tend to be soft, emotional and passive.

He goes into schools and youth clubs and gives training to teachers on sex and relationship education with this shit! bishtraining.com/

"Our genitals are on a spectrum in terms of: how much erectile tissue sticks out (clitorises and dicks and inbetween); where the prostate is; where the wee hole is; whether the gonads are inside or outside; vagina size. Many people are in the middle of this spectrum with how their bodies are configured."

WTAF? There is a spectrum as to where the prostate is? that makes just as much sense as saying there is a spectrum as to where the uterus is between males and females !

"Currently I’m heavily involved in the DO … project. This is a campaign to make great sex and relationships education happen in schools." www.dosreforschools.com/

BISH and the DO SRE FOR SCHOOLS project are both sponsored by Durex and DO involves serious people who know about biology like the Family Planning Association, Brook and the National Association of Headteachers.

....I hope they were just not paying attention. I think we could bring it to the attention of their twitter accounts that they are supporting the promotion of sexism and absolute biological nonsense into schools.

I haven't read the whole thread because I'm rushing but if no-one else has suggested it yet, I think we need to start a letter writing campaign to the DFE and Amanda Spelman at Ofsted about who is advising schools.
This nonsense has to stop. We are infecting children with poisonous drivel.

Benjaminbutton

It won't be long before the TRA's start applying this belief system to animals. "This is my dog, Misty. I know she has rather large testicles but she really is the most loving pooch ever, soooooo emotional". FFS!*

You reminded me of this utter nonsense -

'Dogs and cats are also going under the knife for hip replacements, heart surgery, even gender reassignment. Transgender pets usually fall into one of two categories: animals whose birth sex poses health issues (like Bishop, a German shepherd from Chicago who became Bishy to get rid of the stones lodged in his bladder and penis) or those with risks tied to being born intersex (Red, a California Pomeranian whose male organs were removed to reduce the chance of cancer).'

www.nytimes.com/2018/07/04/style/how-to-pamper-your-pet.html

Oh, so the Blue Cross didn't neuter my rescue cat because she'd already come in pregnant with a litter of unwanted kittens on the way due to owner neglect, they neutered her because deep down they realised she had a boy cat brain in an assigned-queen-at-birth body.

(FermatsCat is currently snuggled beside me purring which I think is her way of saying "frankly, I don't give a shit, so long as you keep the food coming, human slave.")

I think we need to start a letter writing campaign to the DFE and Amanda Spelman at Ofsted about who is advising schools.

It may also be worth writing to Claude Knights.

She was head of Kidscape for many years and commented on the dangers of paedophiles being able to change their identity (by gender transition) in prison.
www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/3006679/paedophile-jailed-transgender-christyl-knight-christopher-nobile/

Chalude Knights chair of the Anti-Bullying Aliance, a member of the All Party Parliamentary Group on Bullying and of the Lords and Commons Family and Child Protection Group.

Just one more from BISH:

This is Justin's advice to a lesbian asking about sex

www.bishuk.com/your-questions/ask-bish-how-should-i-have-sex-if-im-a-lesbian/

There is no "magic" in fact there is really nothing at all specific that can be said l at all. It's all just a mystery.

Because of course if you can't name female genitals, and you can't recognise that lesbian sex involves two women with female genitals so there is nothing at all to say!

How on earth this man is qualified is mind-boggling

"Transgender pets usually fall into one of two categories: animals whose birth sex poses health issues (like Bishop, a German shepherd from Chicago who became Bishy to get rid of the stones lodged in his bladder and penis) or those with risks tied to being born intersex (Red, a California Pomeranian whose male organs were removed to reduce the chance of cancer).'"

Neither of these situations have anything to do with "transgender".

Candidpeel -

I'm surprised he didn't say "give her a good fucking with your clitoris / penis which is likely to be 3 inches long".

Or "how about anal or some sex toys"?

That seems to be his go to advice for first time sex.

Clicked the link to the youtube channel BISH recommends in the lesbian advice link.

Remembering this is aimed at 14yo

Videos include stuff like
"penis packing - a secret lesbian kink"
"here's why this transwoman uses her penis duringsex"
"lesbian couple does strap on challenge"

Loads of the frames have women waving strap ons >>in the shape of cocks! >> around.

It's Um. Not suitable for 14yo. In my opinion.

This guy obviosuly is part of the thing I read the other day >> queer theory sees boundaries as things to be broken down, all of them. Including age.

It is true that you need to be aware that children know stuff and not talk down to them,

This guy though has obviosuly watched so much porn from such a young age that he sees anything that isn't eg a woman getting gang banged by 50 guys and then havign to drink some piss, or whatever, as really tame and suitable for children.

++ Now I'm no dyke but I'm guessing that lesbians who us toys would go for ones that aren't shaped / detailed with veins etc as per a "realistic" penis?

FFs

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Lesbian twins do the kissing challenge! (WTAF)

Jesus not impressed. I mean mild swear + he probably isn't, for teh religious readers :D

You have no idea how many times the first thing that has popped into my head to post has been 'Jesus Christ!' and I have only stopped because it's blasphemy and I've crossed myself instead!!! But yes, I think Jesus is really probably not impressed with this at all.

That Lesbian sex advice page? Why don't you just admit that you have no idea what two women can do in bed together because you can't even grasp the concept? I mean, a YouTube magic trick? Good grief.

That whole "magic trick" thing Justin is doing in the how not to give advice to a young lesbian link is a bit "I have puppies in my van, would you like to come see them?"

There's something incredibly creepy about adults trying to adopt that down with the kids tone. Blech.

Clicked the link to the youtube channel BISH recommends in the lesbian advice link.

Remembering this is aimed at 14yo

Videos include stuff like
"penis packing - a secret lesbian kink"
"here's why this transwoman uses her penis duringsex"
"lesbian couple does strap on challenge"

I am actually astonished. Truly.
You know what, I have been around a bit, seen some things, known some nefarious people. I'm far from naive or easily shocked. I have always been open about sex, live and let live.
But this is fucking disgusting. He is an adult using porn imagery to talk to children about sex!
And yes, young teenagers know stuff (or they think they do) but they are not ALL viewing porn and oh so sophisticated. Some of them are just as awkward, nervous, tender and shy as we were at that age. If I was 14 looking at this I think I would have checked myself into the nearest nunnery and had done with it.
teens will talk, they will experiment, they will see things and think things, but it is not an adults place to get this involved with their sexuality!
WHO the fuck could be taken in by this shite?
He's fucking nonce. He wants locking up.

I'm writing to all the people Rowan suggested, and I am so not a letter writer. Maybe it's because I have an almost teen son but this really upsets me.

He does seem awfully determined to convince baby lesbians that they ought to be as obsessed with cocks as he is.

That's utter bollocks.
Male bollocks which tend to be in the same place in most blokes, be they a lumberjack or someone who likes wearing pink

What if my earlobes identify as bollocks of varying size?

There's something incredibly creepy about adults trying to adopt that down with the kids tone. Blech.

Absolutely. Fuck off Justin.

IfNotNowWhen >>

for clarity, the youtube is run by someone else
He does signpost it for lesbians on his site though

The amount of talk about dick on the "lesbian" page is um interesting

I'm a straight woman and even I'm not that interested!

There's something incredibly creepy about adults trying to adopt that down with the kids tone. Blech.

Yeah, like someone on twitter saying that all 'TERFs' over 40 were irrelevant and times had moved on and they just had to accept it. Said person described themselves as a 'cute trans girl' and was a minimum of 55 from the profile picture. The general lack of self-awareness is just on another scale quite frankly.

I'm a straight woman and even I'm not that interested!

It's enough to put even those of us who like dicks right off them! Women will never find dicks as fascinating as men do no matter how hard they try, and they should really just accept that.

Male humans telling young female humans not to listen to the older female humans who're trying to protect them - twas ever thus, long before some of the male humans realized that wearing bad wigs might be a way to get around safeguarding.

"Women will never find dicks as fascinating as men do no matter how hard they try, "

lol true

I'm way more interested in what is done with it than the aesthetics! When it comes to cock it's men who are fixated

Men just don't understand >> or don't want to understand >> that female sexuality is DIFFERENT to male sexuality. There is overlap sure but in general we are not nearly so interested in dominating our partners, showing randoms our genitals, fixating on our own genitals and drawing images of them all over everythign & etc and so on

I know NothingOnTelly but signposting to porny stuff like that is still grooming (imo)
And his "resources"-page 32 onwards, are just creepy as fuck.
And yes to the "don't listen to the out of touch old hags they don't understand" stance.
Because we do understand (not that I'm old haha) we HAVE experience with creepy men, that's why we're worried!
I have to admit, I lurked on here and read bits and bats, and thought maybe the FWR crew were a bit obsessed..but I get it now.
This is old fashioned sleazy perverts trying to access young people and get past the people who are trying to protect them.
My Nan (anyone's Nan) would have given this nonce a thwack round the head and sent him packing, yet the establishment seem to be inviting perverts in to run workshops!

Yes -

agree 100%

What girls need more than ever is the knowledge that they can and should tell men and boys to FUCK OFF if they don't feel comfy.

Not Mr "first time sex how about toys or anal? what about watching a fisting video together" BISH chappie.