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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Razor blades and stickers again

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HamsterToast · 05/09/2018 20:39

A twitter account is saying that stickers in Manchester Oxford Road station have razor blades behind them put there by TERFS. If you are terfblocked you won't be able to view.

Razor blades and stickers again
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Turph · 08/09/2018 22:13

I will hit him with it when the time is right this sounds terrible Truthmytruth, like some sort of intervention. They'd have a field day with it. I tried to Pm but your account doesn't accept them. I don't even know if mine does, to be fair.
Obviously you can tell me to fuck off if you want, but your last few posts are a goldmine for the opposition. If you read them and pretend you are JB, (maybe hold a carrot or a sausage in one hand to help get into character) and tell me how they can twist your real life pain into you being an unsupportive mother and a transphobe. Sad

Turph · 08/09/2018 22:14

*how easily

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 08/09/2018 22:15

But Turph you're not telling women to keep rocking the cradle.

Turph · 08/09/2018 22:17

Alicethroughtheblackmirror what do you mean? I genuinely don't understand

arranfan · 08/09/2018 22:17

Oh, dear Aunt Maude! One of my all time favourite lines from Patmore's The Angel in the House :

A woman, like the Koh-i-noor, Mounts to the price that's put on her.' ...

Turph · 08/09/2018 22:20

I've just realised, of course my account accepts PMs, I got five the other night calling me a Nazi. Oops

Truthmytruth · 08/09/2018 22:20

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Turph · 08/09/2018 22:24

Ffs are you really that daft. No but I'm not the one putting aggressive rants up specifically for TRAs to see. This is important to me (and to others obviously) and I worried about calling your posts out, but you know what? This is more important than the feelings of some random drunk woman on mumsnet. If you're "really that daft" that you can't see your stream of consciousness bullshit isn't just a ton of ammunition for TRAs then there's no use speaking to you.
Good luck with your teen.

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 08/09/2018 22:27

Sorry, Turph, when you said "to be fair neither am l"

And now I'm confused, but whichever bit you're not or not doing, I meant that Erin saw fit to criticize us on the basis that we should conform to certain standards, the irony being that they never would be mothers because they lacked the necessary. They believe we should be surrendered wives and mothers and have no time for Twitter etc while simultaneously believing they are real women despite the fact they never could be mothers and are not going to get off Twitter and be demure little ladies.

It was the irony of a 'woman' on Twitter telling women that they shouldn't be on Twitter and should get back in the kitchen etc.

And that sounds event more convoluted...

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 08/09/2018 22:30

And I see now that it crossed with other posts and looked like a reply to those...

Turph · 08/09/2018 22:33

Erin saw fit to criticize us on the basis that we should conform to certain standards, the irony being that they never would be mothers because they lacked the necessary. They believe we should be surrendered wives and mothers and have no time for Twitter etc while simultaneously believing they are real women despite the fact they never could be mothers and are not going to get off Twitter and be demure little ladies.
Got you. Agreed.

BettyDuMonde · 08/09/2018 22:47

Where does datalounge.com fit into this new binary system?

arranfan · 08/09/2018 22:51

Where does datalounge.com fit into this new binary system?

We're going to need a bigger binary system.

Or adopt Jeffrey's caste system.

Truthmytruth · 08/09/2018 22:51

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Truthmytruth · 08/09/2018 23:17

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Turph · 08/09/2018 23:33

since you haven’t got back to me your post before just says"thanks for your support". I assumed you were being passive aggressive. What did you want a reply to? I'm happy to talk to anyone.

Turph · 08/09/2018 23:43

Truthmytruth You've admitted you're posting drunk for the second night running, you disagree with my point of view (fair enough) you tell me your posts are "measured", your style is "conversational" , goading TRAs is "intentional", you've "usurped the fight" and I'm apparently "freaked out" by the fact you're a mother. On mumsnet.
Basically I think your posts do more harm than good, you think the opposite.
I think we will just have to agree to disagree Smile

PineappleSunrise · 08/09/2018 23:44

"A hive of mums and villany." I like it. Like an update on the Vipers thing.

FloralBunting · 08/09/2018 23:47

PineappleSunrise, it's one of the better puns I've seen in a while.

Randomdrunkwoman · 08/09/2018 23:52

New name new me. You have labelled me as this. I’m not passive aggressive. I’m livid at your response but I don’t need you to try and make me feel bad for protecting my child so I’m calling you out as unsupportive. Gonna get the wine, vodka, gin , whiskey on now as I’m just a randomer with no idea. However, just to let it be known. I am living this nightmare for over a year and I don’t think your response was helpful. I don’t consider myself as a random drunken mumsnetter but you obviously do. I am shocked at you’re terminology. Really shocked. So I bid you good night and I will bow out of this forum as a parent’s voice is being demonised once again. But before I go. This is my fight and I have as much right as you to say my piece. I was also afraid to upset the TRAs because of the backlash. This should not stop us. As soon as I question it or as you say post aggressive rants I am vilified by the people who I thought were supportive. This is why parents of trans kids can’t win. We say too much and we are ridiculed. We don’t say anything and people assume we are happy with our kids transition. It’s a no win situation. Any wonder parents go underground when they are made out to be drunken randomers.

Randomdrunkwoman · 08/09/2018 23:58

I’ve admitted nothing you are being presumptious and I am using irony But if it gives you a get out clause go for it.

Icantreachthepretzels · 09/09/2018 00:22

I think Turph's recent posts have been fair and supportive.

I empathise with your pain Truthmytruth though I won't pretend I understand what you're going through - but the TRAs are masters of deception and will twist your own words against you. When speaking directly to them (irritating as it is) you (general you not specific you) have to be really careful that you don't end up giving them ammo. What you have posted could easily be screenshotted and used the way Turph suggested.
If your child is able to access TRA twitter and blogs on line - they may even come across a version of your words themselves - and begin to see you as the enemy.
I believe the truth of your situation is how you describe it. I agree with what you said ... but I agree with Turph that screeds like that ultimately don't help. In a world where reality is twisted - we have to give them as little as possible, as it will be used against us.
They can rage at us laughing at them ... but when we show real vulnerability that gives them something to mock. And when we show anger - they pretend it is literal violence and hock it around twitter looking for sympathy.
I think Turph was simply trying to warn you of the dangers of posting raw emotions at reality vampires, in a sisterly and supportive way.

Flowers I hope things get better for you soon Truth and that you are successful in helping your child navigate all this.
Flowers for Turph too.

Randomdrunkwoman · 09/09/2018 00:31

Yeah. You are right. Thanks.

Turph · 09/09/2018 00:37

Icantreachthepretzels thanks, you put that much better than I could.

FloralBunting · 09/09/2018 00:37

Fwiw, truthmytruth, I'm in a similar situation to yourself, and I totally understand the mamabear protective rage.

But if we are going to stop these people getting claws into our kids, we must be smart and channel that rage into useful outlets. Giving vent to frustrated anger in a rant on here just makes you vulnerable, and TRAs are always on the hunt for an exposed jugular.

You want the best for your child. I think all GC posters here are right with you, that's the motivation for all of us. No one GC is your enemy. Down tools for a breath and find some balance because we are truly on your side here.