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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Linda Bellos and Venice Allan at Westminster magistrates court on 26th

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howonearthdidwegethere · 01/09/2018 10:07

Are people planning to attend?

en-gb.facebook.com/events/303482357125787/

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DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 26/09/2018 14:57

GulagMilkMonitor - I could not love that banner more if I’d given birth to it. Take a traditional women’s craft and make it radfem. That’s how women have always done things and it makes me happy to see old-style subversion. I think that’s what FWR’s recipe threads are too - a nod and a wink to clever, sneaky women.

Angryresister · 26/09/2018 14:57

LInda and Venice should sue. This is an absolute nonsense ...the amount of time and energy wasted on on vexatious complaint is huge. They should be compensated. But it is great to see actual women out there supporting our sisters. My heart has lifted.

Ucantarguewistupid · 26/09/2018 15:07

Would love that as a t shirt also - but designed like that not just the words.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 26/09/2018 15:08

Fingers crossed the CPS put the charges in the bin where they belong.

Solidarity sisters!

ILuvBirdsEye · 26/09/2018 15:29

Amazing to see so many women in support. I was there for a while too but had to rush off.

Fabulous banners and great cookies!

theOtherPamAyres · 26/09/2018 15:45

Do we know the specific reason for the adjournment?

If the case was "out of time" (the summons wasn't served within x months of the commission of the offence) then the magistrate should have thrown it out and awarded costs.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 26/09/2018 16:13

Why not thrown out? Why referred?

Sorry but my legal knowledge capped at Crown Court.

ThefusilliJerry · 26/09/2018 16:16

I don’t think the judge could stop it unless satisfies it’s vexatious or abuse of process and that’s quite a high bar
So cps taking over and discontuing is best outcome one could reasonably hope for

arranfan · 26/09/2018 16:16

In the same vein of the Private Eye piece that covered the gulag story but seemed to think it was only elderly feminists who were to be sent there for re-education...

It will be interesting to see any write-ups of L'Affaire Bellos & Allan and if they refer to the age demographic.

What can an 80-year old treasure trove of folklore tell us about how the world sees women?

In folklore, women are something to be feared, and eyed with suspicion,” says Dee Dee Chainey, a writer, folklore curator and founder of the Twitter account and hashtag Folklore Thursday. “Especially once they are no longer youthful brides, useful for bearing children. They are able to transgress boundaries that many men can’t. Like death, it seems that such old women should only be allowed to linger at the outskirts of society, as social pariahs.” ...

Suspicion of older women is nothing new and anyone who lived through 2016 US election will remember how crushingly easy it is to demonise an older woman's every action until she is nothing more than a canvas on to which we can project our collective unease. Starting a witch-hunt is a form of witchcraft in itself – the magic is in the misdirection. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain – keep your eyes on the ageing woman with private habits and even more private income. ...

“There is indeed a correlation between the social and political unrest and the renewed fear of witches,” says Willow Winsham

www.the-pool.com/news-views/opinion/2018/38/irish-folklore-and-how-the-world-sees-women

ShowOfHands · 26/09/2018 16:19

I have had a little weep at the video linked above. I wish I could have been there. Women standing together are a force to be reckoned with; subversive, witty and fierce.

Freespeecher · 26/09/2018 16:21

Linda Bellos and David Davies as one (on this issue at least).

Odd, yet encouraging.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 16:25

So cps taking over and discontuing is best outcome one could reasonably hope for

An opportunity for a lot of ordinary-looking women (in a good way!) and some extraordinarily good banners was a good side-effect. Thanks to those able to get there.Thanks

AsAProfessionalFekko · 26/09/2018 16:26

Counter suit! (Again Crown Court educated here)

BertrandRussell · 26/09/2018 16:28

Does anyone know where we can buy the hankie? I want one so much.....

Fallingirl · 26/09/2018 16:31

Utterly embarrasing that David Davies was there, but not a single Labour mp came out in support of Linda. (Unless I have overlooked someone?)

BettyDuMonde · 26/09/2018 16:38

Labour MPs are all obliged to be Liverpool (today is the last day of conference, so leader’s speech etc).

No excuse for not at least sending messages of support, mind you.

Linda looked very dapper. The hankie was a nice touch.

ErrolTheDragon · 26/09/2018 16:50

Was the hankie suffrage colours or was it a copy of this one?

https://sussexpast.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Priest-House-suffragette-handkerchief.pdf

And does anyone know WTF anyone would complain about a hankie?Confused

VickyEadie · 26/09/2018 16:50

Linda has tweeted the case will be heard at the 'same venue' on 30 November - ?

ShowOfHands · 26/09/2018 16:56

www.mrsbowtie.com

This place sells Suffragette pocket squares and ties.

BertrandRussell · 26/09/2018 16:57

sufferage stuff

ShowOfHands · 26/09/2018 16:58

She was wearing the Suffragette stripes.

AsAProfessionalFekko · 26/09/2018 16:59

Bertrand - shock, that boys stuff surely! I was holing for a scarf to tie up my hair with - or a dress.

BertrandRussell · 26/09/2018 17:02

It says it's available as a handkerchief too- which might be suitable for hair tying- but I can't find details of size and stuff...

ArkeNOTen · 26/09/2018 17:09

Museum of London have a whole suffragette range - including scarf, sash and umbrella

museumoflondonshop.co.uk/collections/museum/Suffragette?page=1

misscockerspaniel · 26/09/2018 17:20

Skepticat has just told me that Guiliana was self-representing in court. I thought there was a big name law firm involved

Interesting. S Chelvan of No5 Barristers' Chambers was instructed by G Kendal on this matter. Presumably, either Kendal couldn't afford the fees or didn't like the advice given.