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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Linda Bellos and Venice Allan at Westminster magistrates court on 26th

468 replies

howonearthdidwegethere · 01/09/2018 10:07

Are people planning to attend?

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Popchyk · 30/11/2018 10:30

Lily Maynard on Twitter saying that the case has been thrown out.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 30/11/2018 10:30

Apparently it was discontinued yesterday but the judge missed the email!

AwakeCantSleep · 30/11/2018 10:30

Case has been thrown out apparently.

Avegemitesandwich · 30/11/2018 10:31

Oh, fabulous!

ColourMagic · 30/11/2018 10:31

Lily Maynard has just tweeted that the case has been thrown out.

Excellent. I dont know anymore yet.

EmpressAdultHumanFemale · 30/11/2018 10:34

Correction - the email came throughout too late yesterday to stop everyone coming. We're all just waiting for Linda & Venice now.

arranbubonicplague · 30/11/2018 10:34

I'm glad sense has prevailed. I hope that the DPP took it over and declined to progress the case.

Linda and Venice have been through so much stress with this and the expense is ludicrous.

I wonder if Guiliana will have to pay costs?

LangCleg · 30/11/2018 10:37

Yes, will they be able to get their costs back? Or would they have to go to the effort of claiming?

picklemepopcorn · 30/11/2018 10:43

Who on Earth let this get so far!?

ToeToToe · 30/11/2018 10:44

Thank god good sense has prevailed. Shame it took so long - Linda and Venice have been through months of stress with this nonsense.

So concerning though - this is a campaign of intimidation against women for speaking out.

Datun · 30/11/2018 10:44

@smeerf

I know, it's awful to have to be this covert about everything.

RiverTam · 30/11/2018 10:55

will whoever brought this action (Guiliana??) have to pay their costs and all costs involved? God I hope so. (I have no idea how this works, obviously).

Brava Linda and Venice!

Melamin · 30/11/2018 10:58

Congratualtions!!!!!!!!!

Over and done with already Grin
Hope everyone has a really good meeting this evening.
(I want to see a really happy photo of Venice and Linda and all you banner women...……….please Grin )

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 30/11/2018 11:01

I wish I understood how it was allowed to get this far when it was clearly ridiculous.

Koalablue · 30/11/2018 11:11

Congraltulations. Some common sence at last.

hackmum · 30/11/2018 11:16

Thank goodness! Really pleased.

WTFIsAGleepglorp · 30/11/2018 11:18

Who on Earth let this get so far!?

Private prosecutions go as far as the money takes the prosecution, or if the CPS decides it has merit, they pick it up and run with it.

Either Giuliana/Mark has run out of money, or she's finally listened to counsel.

arranbubonicplague · 30/11/2018 11:33

The DPP can intervene to prevent a private prosecution from proceeding under some circumstances.

www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/private-prosecutions

In a State prosecution, the defendant who challenges the sufficiency of the evidence has one option: to apply to the Court to dismiss the case. In a private prosecution, the defendant has an additional option: to invoke section 6(2) of the Prosecution of Offences Act 1985, which entitles the Director of Public Prosecutions (“the DPP”) to take over a private prosecution so as to discontinue it. The DPP’s policy on private prosecutions states that she will discontinue a private prosecution if the evidential test from the CPS Code for Crown Prosecutors (“the CPS Code”) is not satisfied, i.e. there is no realistic prospect that the defendant would be convicted. The lawfulness of the DPP’s policy was affirmed by the Supreme Court in R v Gujra.[1] Their Lordships regarded the DPP’s power to discontinue a private prosecution on evidential grounds as an important safeguard against abuse of the right to prosecute.

On the matter of costs (from above link):

Earlier this year, Peter Gray, the former partner of Gibson Dunn & Crutcher LPP, received a substantial costs award after Hammersmith Magistrates Court dismissed a private prosecution brought against him and others concerning allegations of human trafficking. District Judge Tan Ikram reportedly described the private prosecution as “wholly improper”. The Judge’s rebuke is a reminder that private prosecutions, which have swung into fashion in recent times, need to be carefully handled.

www.corkerbinning.com/defending-a-private-prosecution/

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2018 11:39

Good!

I hope Linda, Venice and their supporters are now happily having a nice elevenses or lunch together.

BigGreenOlives · 30/11/2018 11:47

I’ve just left them all, they’ve gone off to celebrate at a pub. Lots of lovely friendly women, beautiful banners and no TRAs.

ErrolTheDragon · 30/11/2018 11:51

Thanks from all of us for going, olives and others - although it's annoying that people didn't know earlier, it's good to know there are people like you who make that sort of effort to offer support.Thanks

BigGreenOlives · 30/11/2018 12:06

I only decided last minute to go, if Janice Turner, SwearyG, Datun, LilyMaynard etc can make an effort it isn’t much for me to turn up. Loved the women from ‘Let A Woman Speak’ who I was standing next to.

Fantata · 30/11/2018 12:09

I went along as well. Would love to know if I talked to other MNers. I did talk to one of you but not sure who.

Anyway, hope to see a few of you this evening as well.

Now going back home to get on with more mundane things.

Unformidable · 30/11/2018 12:12

From Skeptimeghanmurphycat_UK on twitter

@Skepticat_UK
Linda Bellos and Venice Allan have just emerged from the court. Case discontinued. #WarOnWomen
twitter.com/Skepticat_UK/status/1068463812116926469