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Aimee suspended on no fault basis

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MipMipMip · 31/08/2018 21:58

Just that. Wanted people to get the news asap as only on BBC 10 minutes. Apologies if someone has already posted.

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MipMipMip · 31/08/2018 21:58

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-45373833

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Melanippe · 31/08/2018 22:10

Good, if weirdly belated decision from the Greens. It's a huge shame that it took them so long and so much pressure when they got rid of Olivia Palmer in seconds, but it's the right decision.

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MipMipMip · 31/08/2018 22:14

It's only a suspension, they still have plenty of time to find that despite all evidence Aimee didn't know and if she had it wouldn't matter anyway and just shows she is a good, trusting soul who we should all look up to.

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AngryAttackKittens · 31/08/2018 22:17

What in theory would a party member have to do for fault to be found? I mean, if not reporting the fact that your father who you share a house with and who is involved with your campaign and following you around taking photos of events is under police investigation isn't considered fault worthy, then what it?

The "Aimee didn't know" part is obviously complete nonsense and if the GP believes it they have an even bigger "why are we all complete fools and what happens if someone tries to convince us that lead, asbestos, and mercury are good for children?" problem on their hands.

ABitCrapper · 31/08/2018 22:17

It does say external investigation though. So presumably not the greens. I wonder if they have chosen a pro trans activitist organisation ...?

Procrastinator1 · 31/08/2018 22:21

Hope it's not a lawyer involved in Teli or whatever it's called.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 31/08/2018 22:21

My guess is that Aimee will quietly fade away at this point but that they will have a new stunning and brave 20 year old in place within the year

littlbrowndog · 31/08/2018 22:23

It’s still a shite piece o& reporting.

Green part6 still saying in that report by bbcthat they stand by AC

Not one word for the wee girl who was tortured and raped

Bbc u suck bigly

AngryAttackKittens · 31/08/2018 22:27

I have some Thoughts about the various organizations whose approach to this has been "OK so a child was raped and tortured and of course that's unfortunate AND NOW LET'S FOCUS ON AIMEE AND HOW WE CAN SUPPORT HER DURING THIS TRYING TIME, ps. also don't blame the Greens there's no way we could have known".

AnchorMum · 31/08/2018 22:28

Bbc u suck bigly

Sums it up littlbrowndog

OlennasWimple · 31/08/2018 22:32

Presumably "no fault suspension" is the volunteer equivalent of "suspended on full pay" that most employers have for people who they need to get out of the work place while they investigate allegations of dodginess?

They are so slow off the mark with this, though - it should have happened immediately that the guilty verdict was announced (if not sooner)

BronwenFrideswide · 31/08/2018 22:33

Wonder what those difficult lessons to learn will be? I won't hold my breath that they will be the kind of lessons I would hope for.

TallulahWaitingInTheRain · 31/08/2018 22:38

Any reference to survivors of male sexual violence is totally unacceptable because mentioning their interests is equivalent to "weaponising them in support of a transphobic agenda"

*/our, ourselves

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MipMipMip · 31/08/2018 22:43

I read no fault suspension as the equivalence of innocent until proven guilty. Theoretically every person going into a trial is considered innocent, no matter how great a list of evidence there is.

I do wonder what would have happened nothing had Aimee's father been found not guilty. Because her error in judgement for employing him while under suspicion would still be there. It's just the guilty verdict has brought it to the forefront.

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littlbrowndog · 31/08/2018 22:44

Yeps kittens.

They give no ff about that wee lass

haXXor · 31/08/2018 23:20

Our worry isn't actually because Aimee is trans. This is about Aimee being brought up by someone who mistreated animals, raped a little girl, and was so bad a parent that Aimee was taken into care. This is us recognising patterns between Aimee's dad and Aimee's politics of undermining safeguarding and hearing alarm bells ringing. This is us recognising that children who've been taken into care and neglected often don't have healthy boundaries as adults and don't understand why these boundaries are needed. This is us thinking in terms of safeguarding.

A person's intuition and pattern recognition are their firewall, to keep harmful people from getting near.
A person's boundaries are their intrusion detection system, a boundary violation should ring alarm bells.
A neglected or abused child will, as an adult, have a misconfigured or absent firewall and IDS. This is not rocket science and anyone with that background who thought that single-sex spaces weren't needed would attract similar scrutiny.

VickyEadie · 31/08/2018 23:31

haXXor

Spot on.

IAmLurkacus · 31/08/2018 23:41

Brilliant post haXXor

Datun · 31/08/2018 23:54

haXXor

Nailed it.

Needmoresleep · 01/09/2018 00:17

haXXor, another timely article in the Mail

www.google.co.uk/amp/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6120107/amp/How-survived-growing-House-Horrors-Fred-Rose-Wests-daughter.html

Fred and Rose Wests daughter has written a book which they about the serialise. Already a few interesting things:

  1. It took her 10 years to recognise her mother's guilt and the fact thst her mother was an arch manifulaor
  1. It took a long time and a battle with agrophobia for her to present herself to Victim Support and ask for help.
  1. As a child her normal was normal.

She sounds like a brave woman who has been impressively successful in building a good family life after a truely awful childhood. It is very possible that AC's childhood was also awful. I hope that AC manages to make a similar journey. I think the GP and the whole TRA circus may retrospectively be seen as exploiting a very vulnerable young person.

OnlyObjectivity · 01/09/2018 00:24

"...to ensure that difficult lessons are indeed learnt"

Whenever I hear this sentence I want to scream "This world is not your bloody classroom!"

It's always an excuse for a lack of up-front thinking.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 01/09/2018 00:26

The Independent has an article as well - much better journalism than Beeb

The statement added: ”The Green Party takes its safeguarding responsibilities and duties of care extremely seriously and is committed to learning any difficult lessons needed.”

Horse and stable door come to mind - if they took their safeguarding seriously, this train wreck wouldn't have been allowed to happen.

I also note the continuing over-protectiveness of AC - the infantilisation - in the announcement of the no-fault suspension. No one else gets the "no-fault" descriptor whilst investigations are carried out so why does AC?

anyone with that background who thought that single-sex spaces weren't needed would attract similar scrutiny

you may think that, I couldn't possibly comment ;)

theOtherPamAyres · 01/09/2018 00:34

It's a pity that AC doesn't have a critical friend to lay it on the line, or draw pictures. AC dropped the GP in the stinky brown stuff and can't even see the damage that she has done and will continue to do.

  • AC didn't recognise the need to tell the Green Party about matters that had a bearing on their reputation and standing. Kept schtum until outed.
  • didn't see the need to step aside from Deputy Leadership campaign. Stayed in place until arm-twisted to step aside

-claimed not to have known the extent of DC's crimes. Blown out by Coventry Pride

-promised to take a break from Twitter. Didnt. Instead, issued further self-serving statements

  • Sends out tweets that she is helping an Enquiry team to learn the lessons. Sends another one about "no fault" as though the term meant exoneration and the all-clear.

-Suspended

You can "help the Green party with its enquiries" , AC, by providing a full list of events and locations where your father accompanied you on Green party business between the time he was arrested and convicted.

And then a list of all the campaigns, projects and tasks that your father worked on, alongside you.

Notmynom · 01/09/2018 00:44

Statement from Green Party Women in defence of Aimee here m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1864624806987631&id=647628982020559.

I don't believe Aimee didn't know much about the charges for a minute but their insistence that she had told the Green Party something about them is interesting/worrying.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 01/09/2018 00:49

Whenever I hear this sentence I want to scream "This world is not your bloody classroom!"

It's always an excuse for a lack of up-front thinking.

YY- in all these situations, always obfuscating the gross failure of duty of care that shouldn't have happened if they had anyone with any common sense around who wasn't so busy protecting their own career and turning a blind eye to glaring red flags. And they don't learn as we have seen from Savile. Those same institutions used by him are still ignoring huge red flag behaviours for the sake of political correctness, careers and reputations - tl;dr it couldn't happen here again - really??