Green Party statement

[Destinysdaughter]

Sorry it’s so tiny, I screenshotted it on my phone from Twitter! It’s a bit mealy mouthed...

batteries

The link between DC and AC will need to be dragged kicking and screaming out of certain news outlets.

They have had sensitivity training

It isn't just the link that certain new outlets are not covering.

They are not covering DC's conviction at all.

And MNHQ have pulled several threads about this already.

hackmum

Are you referring to Aimee Challenor's statement to the HOP's committee?

I can see why the previous poster named the crime.

The Green Party statement is deliberately minimising it I guess they're still either in denial or hoping it will all float away - depending on who put that statement out).

Naming what was actually done refuses this disgusting strategy.

As I think more about this, I'm really horrified about what it reveals about the Green Party as a whole.

I'm personally embarrassed. I've actually voted for them in the past. I'm actually glad, now, that my votes didn't propel anyone into office.

I just find it so difficult to square with Caroline Lucas, for whom I have s great deal of respect.

Yes, a friend just said she'd heard nothing at all about this. Why? Again, who is muzzling the media?

This is a really good indication of where 'sensitivity training' is going wrong.

There are serious, serious issues involved in this case. Our media should be analysing all of that. Our media are in a really shitty state at the moment. ☹️

DC's conviction was written about in the Sun, the Mirror, Metro, local news and the Independent,and the Mail.
No coverage at all in Guardian, Telegraph, Times.

Different papers choose to cover different things. I don't know if this pattern is what might be expected. Or not.

Now the connection has been made more publicly with AC, will this mean there will now be different coverage?

Can't say I'm surprised that the Guardian is avoiding it, but I'm not sure why The Times wouldn't cover it.

If anyone has ever been near anything like this irl (I have - I was a court witness) they will know that only a certain amount gets out into the public sphere.

I could write a book on the stuff left out of the press (and indeed the court hearing) on the case I was involved with. In my case, the real truth was far, far worse than anything that an outsider could read about online - and the reason for that is the victim is granted anonymity.

But one thing we do know, is that David Challenor called this poor child "a liar and a fantasist". He also has supporters on his FB page saying that the police "fabricated the evidence". Which interestingly enough, also happened in the case I was involved with. Some people just don't want to believe it.

So to answer your earlier question, AngryAttackKittens about addresses - and the silence by the Green Party - I expect it's because they thought he would be found not guilty.

Let face it, it's rare for women to get justice in sex abuse/rape cases - even rarer for children, who are frequently found to be unreliable witnesses. The Green Party have quite literally been caught out - and active member of their party is guilty of child rape and torture.

who is muzzling the media?

I think they've become so used to kowtowing to the trans lobby that they can't do an about turn now.

I've just been thinking about how the Greens, the Lib Dems, Labour, Girl Guides...all sorts of parties and organisations that should have had more sense have jumped on the trans bandwagon, they don't give a shit about women and girls, I hope they're fucking shivering in their boots now for fear of this impacting them.

I'm finding the lack of coverage.

Rape, torture, the possible making and distribution of illegal child rape images - all at the (then) HQ of the Coventry Green Party?

I'd say that's newsworthy in it's own right.

Let alone the issue of the Green Party spokesperson on LBGQT+ issues' Campaign Manager having been undergoing investigation whilst in role.

I'm a bit stunned it merits no media discussion.

But ... our media is a big fucked at the moment. ☹️

The house where the torture and rape of a child took place was the Coventry Membership Headquarters.
And yet they claim they had no idea it was a crime scene?
Bullshit.

Rape, torture, the possible making and distribution of illegal child rape images - all at the (then) HQ of the Coventry Green Party?

I'd say that's newsworthy in it's own right.

Exactly. That’s what I was expecting. Some discussion of that. Somewhere.

Surely that’s a key point for the local paper at least.

DC’s conviction has just been reported on the local bbc television news.

This case was reported in The Sun, The Daily Mail, The Record , The Metro, The Independent and certain local papers.

None of "the quality press" - The Times, The Telegraph, The Guardian or the BBC reported it.

Even without the link to AC it is a crime of exceptional and almost unbelievable depravity and brutality. The sentence of 22 years with no question of release after half served is also exceptional in UK criminal sentencing.

I have submitted a complaint to the BBC The Guardian and The Times about this. I am particularly depressed and surprised by The Times.

Perhaps MNetters need to look at the red tops in a different light because without them most of us would never have heard of this. My news junkie husband, despite listening to Radio 4, reading 2 "quality " print versions each day and watching Channel 4 news, knew nothing about it.

Is there any injunction in place re media?

What I don't understand is, if DC was involved with scouts etc, and it seems so from his public social media accounts, of which they were many, then surely the police investigated his computer and online history (which we know they did, as they found images), surely the organisations he was known to be involved with should have been informed? & even a cursory check would have brought to light his involvement with the green party.

It seems to me that everyone involved assumed he would be found not guilty.

I mean, why wouldn't they, most men are found not guilty.

They could all then just carry on as normal, while announcing he'd been falsely accused (probably due to transphobia ), that the child was a fantasist, that it was all made up.

The conviction must have come as a right shock. That 10 year old is brave; her family should be so proud of her.

Have any of the media reported on the Green Party connection? I haven't seen it.

My understanding was that there was an injunction that had been appealed and would be lifted in a couple of days.

I am hoping that the BBC, Guardian and Times are waiting for that to publish bigger investigative pieces.

If they don't - well that's the massive story.

I have no doubt in my mind that if this was a case in which the guilty sick bastard was a working class white van man it would be published widely.

Meanwhile there is a head of a christian religion making a visit to Ireland and the discussion is about

CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE

That get's news coverage.

I know that this was covered up and the priests involved were sent to other parishes in Ireland when safeguarding issues where raised.

Is there any injunction in place re media?

No. The Sun and the other papers with some guts and, might I even say, integrity have printed photographs of the house.

ToeToToe

No

Is there any injunction in place re media

AFAIK David asked for a gagging order to keep Aimees name out of it to protect their political career, it was successfully appealed but with a 5 day breathing space. Which has been used to react previous articles linking Aimee and David

I think the injunction related specifically to linking DC with AC and the GP.

Someone please correct me if I've got it wrong.