Green Party statement

[Destinysdaughter]

Sorry it’s so tiny, I screenshotted it on my phone from Twitter! It’s a bit mealy mouthed...

Nobody on this forum has shown even the slightest wish to identify the victim here. It is disingenuous to suggest this.

Barracker's posts made no mention to any links to the victim.

We are talking about the Green Party, and their claim not to have known about this case until the conviction - despite Aimee Challenor being a Spokesperson for the party, the address of GP Coventry having the crime scene address listed as the Coventry branch until a couple of hours ago (it was changed when it was pointed out on Twitter), and the perpetrator being active in the Green Party up until (at least) May 2018.

But cat, Baracker didn't make any reference to any under-age children. Nor did I. The deletions/comment by Michael make no sense.

Unless Michael means "your comments are a little too close to the truth, we don't want people talking about this, so we are deleting/hiding you".

Is that ok?

Not read the whole of the thread but PLEASE, email or tweet it to any media outlets or journalists you know of. We can't let this be unreported, it's just too important! The more of us that do it, the more likely it is to be heard. Twitter and MN are not enough, this HAS to go mainstream!

attempting to piece together any information that might identify the victim. NOONE has been doing that and, I don't give 2 shits if you're a mod or not, don't fucking dare imply it as. Reason to curb debate and delete posts because it's not the MN way and it's a misogynistic approach to shit down debate.

It's not disingenuous, its downright dishonest

Holly not saying you did anything wrong, but the youngest child is still a minor and it doesn't sit quite right even if the parents pursued publicity.

The younger challenor children's names are in the public domain - Tina challenor has posted about them in open Facebook groups.
The care judgement doesn't name them but the fact that the children were all taken into care is public knowledge because the challenor parents posted it on public social media pages so sadly there is no privacy for the younger children under any circumstances, because of David's crimes and Aimee's political aspirations, which David nurtured and supported, despite knowing he was on trial for child sexual abuse.

Nobody has identified the younger children in the media apart from their own parents.

To insinuate that posters are trying to identify the victim is dishonest, disingenuous and completely offensive. It simply hasn't happened. @michaelmumsnet could you clarify please and make it clear that this has not taken place on any threads?

@MichaelMumsnet the implication that anyone on this thread has in any way attempted to identify the victim is shockingly offensive, a serious misrepresentation of what posters have been saying, and (if directed at any poster in particular) borderline libelous. Please retract your accusation.

@Procrastinator1

Sorry, just don't agree and won't ask for it be withdrawn. You may report I suppose and MN may do as they choose.

Indeed, wouldn't it have been lovely if the children's own parents hadn't put their names into the public domain?

I have ZERO intention of identifying the victim.

But still, there IS A VICTIM, and she was a very young child, and in addition to the unthinkable abuse she suffered at the age of TEN, she has had to endure years of her abuser branding her a fantasist, and observing a feted celebrity of a politician who is held up as a paragon of inclusivity and compassion LIVING WITH and APPOINTING HER ABUSER AS AN ELECTION AGENT in a bid for deputy leadership. What kind of a world protects those in a position of public service who align themselves with abusers?

And every measure you take, MNHQ, to stifle public discussion or condemnation of the political figure I mention, who is the adult offspring of the abuser, emboldens other similarly minded people to see that they are untouchable, beyond reproach.

We MUST condemn political figures, adults, who stand by paedophiles. We MUST, for the sake of victims and our own selves.

Challenor Senior tortured that child.
I condemn every adult who stood by him, but my fiercest wrath I reserve for those who expect power and influence and public office after having done so, and those who would protect them.

YY, AAK In some scenarios you can understand why a person has terrible judgement, but that doesn't mean that said person with terrible judgement should be allowed to hold public office, advise the government/schools/media outlets, etc.

And we need our free speech to challenge them and hold them accountable.

I think whether or not any particular person feels sympathy for Aimee is a private matter and up to them, whereas whether or not Aimee remains in Aimee's current position is a matter of pubic interest.

100% this AAK

How can anyone vote to elect someone to a potical post without knowing more about them? AC has undoubtedly been harmed by growing up in this household, and people have the right to know and understand what may inform her poltical agenda, and many of AC's actions have been taken since the age of 18, and AC is not an example of an isolated, marginalised person who has had no other influences on their outlook.

I seem to have missed that Aimee Challenor stood to be elected as an MP in 2017. I thought references to her election proposer (DC) was to be a local councillor. I almost cannot beleive what I am reading with my own eyes.

Questions need to be asked.

(To be clear, I have no intention of repeating that reach of the children's privacy, so the mods can take their fingers off the delete button.)

Barrack 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

Shit, this thread moved on some. Sorry

Michael mumsnet

Not one fucking person has ever ever tried to identify the victim of that vile man ffs

By implying that people were trying to identify the victim, and deleting posts, makes it look like people have been deleted for that.

That is a vile thing to imply and that comment needs fucking explanation.

What the fuck is going on here?

He's apologised, people.

Barraker I did say you didn't.

I really agree with OP.

This is massively important.

This thread MUST stand.

We NEED to get this out to the wider public.

The wider public does not all read Mumsnet, so, what steps can we take to get this information out given that google is apparently suppressing links to the few news articles that have been published?

(This came up in one of the now deleted threads, googling is not linking to the articles on the DM, Metro, etc.)

Too many people and groups have a vested interested in letting this go under the radar.

They risk looking like fools and being posed troubling questions about their own checks and balances and the bars they set for accountability.

That is why WE need to push to getting this a wider circulation.

The thread being deleted would not help that.

Destiny'sDaughter

PLEASE, email or tweet it to any media outlets or journalists you know of. We can't let this be unreported, it's just too important! The more of us that do it, the more likely it is to be heard. Twitter and MN are not enough, this HAS to go mainstream!

I get DM, Sun and independent articles by googling.

Sorry Michael, cross post. Apology accepted.

Apology is not enough MichaelMumsnet you should remove that comment, it is an appalling and totally untrue accusation to level at posters on this thread.

Barracker’s posts should stand. It is horrifying that they have been deleted, that on a website for mothers we can’t honestly discuss this case which has huge issues regarding safeguarding.
A.C deliberately put many women’s safety at stake with block lists. That someone who could do this alone was considered a reasonable candidate for any political party in Britain makes me despair.
That Is before you look at the fact that DC, someone who had been convicted of animal cruelty , had children taken into care, and had been charged with horrific crimes against a little girl, could be so involved with the party as to have his address as the Coventry Headquarters.
The Green Party statement is appalling, crass and self serving.