We are different

[askingquestionsisok]

Is it wrong if me to feel like there are differences between men and women and that's what makes us human?

Aside from equal pay debate (I believe same job, same pay) and similar- I do believe that there are inherent, natural differences between men and women. But it doesn't seem ok to think this or say it anymore?!

I also feel like a lot of 'feminists' use that umbrella to man- bash. Don't get me wrong, I have known a good few awful men, I've also known a good few awful women. We can't tar everyone with the same brush?!

Thoughts?

'feminists'

@bd67th

Without going into my personal, personal life- because it's personal- I most definitely have, from an early age. And not just at the hands of a man.

@placemats

I'd say a man is a rapist if he rapes, or intends to.

I'm still not a man hater because some men are actually quite nice.

I'm also not a feminist hater- because I'm sure some of you are nice too.

Hi I'm new so just testing out how to post.

As you can see from my user name, I'm new to this feminism thing and am only taking an interest now due to the transgender debate. The thing that has possibly put me off feminism for years is the idea that there are no innate psychological differences between men and women. As a mother, a grandmother and someone who has seen many, many children through from birth to adulthood, I am convinced the differences we observe in adults are down to more than just socialisation. In addition to believing that the sociological theory of gender is incorrect, I also feel it does nothing to advance society but just leads to a misandric mindset.

Please don't forget I'm new so go easy on me please

Although I see it's moved onto breakfast cereal, which is essentially cardboard, and I am disappointed by that. I just...I thought we were better than that is all.

Oh GOOD someone else who doesn't like Weetabix. My breakfast of choice is scrambled eggs with avocado & mushrooms. Or maybe a Wetherspoons veggie brunch.

No one has any manners anymore.

I blame Brexit.

My breakfast of choice is scrambled eggs with avocado & mushrooms.

Fair enough.

Not cake though is it? Hmm?

@Neverbeenafeminist

See- you said that nicely and I better it didn't even hurt.
Some of these ladies could learn a thing or two. It's ok to educate each other without ridicule.

Put your pitchforks down ladies.

I'm still not a man hater because some men are actually quite nice.

Sure. I know some lovely men. But we sex segregate for a reason, don't we?

Good point...is that because men can't be trusted?

I'm still not a man hater because some men are actually quite nice

Yes, some are, probably most are. I still wouldn’t want to share a changing room or toilet with them!

back to your post I also have never experienced sexism in any of my job roles or personal life

Lucky you. Other women are less lucky. There are 200 rapes, committed on school premises by boys against their female classmates, reported to the police each year. The number actually committed is likely to be around 2000, because we know from studies on reporting rates that only 10% of rapes are reported to the police. As feminists, we are here for those girls. We try to defend their right to single-sex spaces and to get justice. That you think "I'm alright Jack" or that your life experience is reflective of everyone else's, says a lot about you, not us.

Put your pitchforks down ladies.

I sold mine on a famous online selling site for more than it was worth. I believe the name of the gullible person was askingquestionsisok

I'm sure it's just a coincidence OP.

@YeTalkShiteHen me either?

But why....

Because if there are no differences and it's purely physical, why does it matter.

I don't understand how the weetabix/cake sarcasm shit is fun for anyone.

I could understand it if a poster was a known troll or MRA or whatnot.

I'm happy to be called names to my face/have my arse handed to me on a plate etc etc but the sort of turn-away-and-exchange-in-jokes thing I don't understand. I think it spoils threads and derails debate.

The movement wasn't so women would be the same as the men, it was so woman would be treated as equal to men.

Nope. That's the outcome. The movement is to eliminate the disadvantage.

To do that you have to identify the disadvantage.

If you are a woman, you are living proof of those disadvantages having been eliminated.

You're welcome.

@placemats

Ah yes, must have been me!

I sent my other half down the fields with it to do some mans work

Oh damn. It was the use of the term ladies that gave it away. Do better next time.

Shredded Wheat. Queen of cereal

Some disadvantages.

Frankly, if you could eliminate male violence, the major disadvantage to women, I might begin to look more favourably on the idea that feminism is only about equality,

Good point...is that because men some new posters can't be trusted?

Make mine muesli.

Are you ladies playing nicely yet? Or still being howwid about men?

Because if there are no differences and it's purely physical, why does it matter

I’ve never been raped by a woman.

Also, I’ve never been sexually harassed by a woman.

I'm still not a man hater because some men are actually quite nice.

That's a bit anodyne. OP

Some men in my life are brilliant and gorgeous and I enjoy their company immensely.

Oh God, and brigades

There are brigades for everything now

Is there still The Girls' Brigade?

It's unfortunate that so many of you are looking for women to be treated equal ( as this is not what you have experienced) and obviously passionate about your views yet look so unintelligent when speaking to other women.

Put your pitchforks down ladies.

Every time. Every. Single. Time.

All you need to do is wait.