Why is he crying? Laura Huteson death

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Laura Huteson death: Hull man killed woman in 'bizarre' sex game www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-humber-45140580

How often hetersexual men die during “risky” sex games because I can’t think of one case from the news? I know that sadly happens in same sex couples/ participants (can think of a couple examples from the news) but in hetero? It seems it tends to be women who love being throttled, punched, tied up, brutalised.

What does it mean he did not intend that to happen. What did he think would happen.

If this woman had survived her injuries and rang the police then the outcome would have been so much different. My guess would be he would be in for at least 8 years.

It takes quite some force and intent to cut through human flesh. Makes me sick for the poor woman even if she initially thought it would be a bit of fun with a blunt knife.

A 21 year old up for a bit of fun with a knife with a guy she just met that day? Pull the other one.

And if he'd actually served the 18 months that he was sentenced for in the aggravated vehicle taking and theft case, he'd still have been in jail in the night in question.

Another factor. Repeat offenders consistently let out early. So that they can commit further crimes while they are still on licence.

He obviously admitted not guilty because it went to trial.

He obviously admitted not guilty because it went to trial.

Article says he pleaded guilty. So the court business was sentencing after mitigation heard. If I get time, I'll look for the sentencing remarks to see what, if any, discount he got for an early plea.

For all we know that could've been a cold blooded murder that was entirely premeditated. She may have had no idea of the presence of a knfe.

The dead women don't get to tell their side of the story. This makes me sick.

It's like Oscar Pistorius - he gets to tell his side only to the court - because she's, well dead. And they always seem to be given the benefit of the doubt - while the woman is, well, dead.

21 years old.

Thanks for the clarification Lang

Don't think I could bear to look at what the 'discount' was.

Buy one get one free?

This is so fucked! A woman is murdered and a worthless man concocts a cock and knife story and gets SIX YEARS!! 🤬🤬🤬🤬

Come on, Stevejobs...tell us again how men protect women!

And was he really crying? Or does he have the complexion of a substance abuser?

Disgusting. He murdered her. No ifs no buts.

I read this earlier on the BBC and had the exact same thoughts.

She's dead - I'm really interested to know how the judge arrived at this conclusion:

"The judge said there was no suggestion the sex had been non-consensual."

The sex... OK. What about the violent aspects of it? They were drinking vodka and doing coke, what was her capacity to consent like? Was she with it?

I find it really disturbing that acts that outside the bedroom would be seen as serious assault are suddenly AOK if they happen during a sexual encounter. There've been loads of men accused of violent crimes against women use the "she liked it rough" excuse in court.

And for this case - she's dead? At his hand. Is he a reliable witness as to what state she was in and what she did or didn't consent to?

The headline is appalling. It's not a "sex game gone wrong" it's "man kills woman".

Yes also reminds me of the recent strangulation where the reporting and the words of the judge IIRC encouraged us to feel sorry for the poor chap.

On a thread with one of these recently someone said that they never could haveimagined we'd get to a point where a man in court could say "oh she wanted me to punch her in the face / strangle her / stab her" and the judge and jury would all nod their heads and think yep that seems kosher. Agree porn is a big driver in this.

Every step forward we make is turned against us. Efforts to open up about sex and female pleasure, remove shame etc. And that gets twisted into "sex positive no kink shaming here" and the proliferation of violent porn as the norm.

Yes, it's like women enjoy your sexual freedom but also pay the consequences of being erased murdered as a result.

It strikes me as disingenuous when Judges have no idea about the current 'soap operas' on the television or the current 'PS4 games' but they all seem to understand 'kinky sex gone wrong'.

Whether the sex was consensual is irrelevant given that murder was not.

I don’t think it’s simply porn but age old misogyny.

On a thread with one of these recently someone said that they never could haveimagined we'd get to a point where a man in court could say "oh she wanted me to punch her in the face / strangle her / stab her" and the judge and jury would all nod their heads and think yep that seems kosher. Agree porn is a big driver in this

Exactly. See enough women in pornography get off on being brutalised, and men think it's possible. Or likely. Or normal.

On a thread with one of these recently someone said that they never could haveimagined we'd get to a point where a man in court could say "oh she wanted me to punch her in the face / strangle her / stab her" and the judge and jury would all nod their heads and think yep that seems kosher.

Think that may have been me... it’s the normalisation of it that’s so bloody disturbing.

And this is going to sound like I’m a total weirdo but it’s NOT easy to cut someone’s throat. I’ve worked with plenty of human tissue, organs and animal tissues as part of my work. They can be tough.
As a student I’ve also worked on sheep stations and once or twice had to euthanise sick animals who were suffering and far too far from vets. Horrible thing to have to do. It sometimes necessary.
It’s not easy to cut somethings throat - even with a knife that’s designed for the purpose. Sorry if that’s TMI for anyone - but it’s true. You don’t just hold a play knife to someone’s throat and ooopsie daisy there we go. This man is culpable for his actions and the victim has no voice.

I’m sickened. It’s like there’s this huge push to get men’s sexual rights enshrined any way they can, on multiple fronts, all at once.

I agree but I think it’s also partly old misogynist attitudes that if a woman might consent to sex with a man she’s just met, and she might like it a bit kinky then she may well want to be strangled. Because wanton, fallen, promiscuous women are capable of anything.

That was to Datun ^^

This is an example of how much men hate women. Cut someone’s through and use extreme porn and BDSM as an excuse. And it is accepted.
He pleaded guilty to manslaughter. How he got away with this is unbelievable.
Any female judge or a majority female jury wouldn’t have let this through.
Terrifying.

Bowlofbabelfish

Surely a medic could have testified to that in court?

And I'm sure it's true.

And this is not an isolated case - the case of Chloe Miazek I quoted upthread was almost identical.

I’m not convinced that they both weren’t raped at knifepoint tbh.

How do we know she went with him willingly....she can't say otherwise now...how do we know she wasn't raped and murderd ? The sex may not of been consensual..he could of force fed her drugs

Don't think I could bear to look at what the 'discount' was.

I don't blame you.

You're right that there would have been a chance of much higher sentence with attempted murder had she survived.

The whole thing is beyond words.

If one was asked datun

Do you reckon they were? I doubt it, because simply saying she was up for it is enough. No one fought this poor woman’s side enough.

Personally I’d give the judge and jury a sheep carcass each and a normally sharp kitchen knife and make them cut its throat. It’s a fairly good practical demonstration of what’s needed, in terms of force, angle and persistence. I’m sure any medic, vet or farmer would be able to testify to that.

It’s like stabbing - when you see these cases and the victim has been stabbed 30+ times. People don’t realise how hard it is to do that. It takes strength and what I suppose is true anger and frenzy.

Sorry, this has taken a very dark tone. This week’s news has been hard reading.

The DH likes to watch 24 Hours in Police Custody on TV. Time and again on that programme, the police are spitting tacks because the CPS goes for lesser charges rather than take a chance with a jury.

Looking at what Bowl said above, this seems to be a particularly egregious (and upsetting) example.