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Woke guy that did that "terfs are trash" song accused of sex crimes

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raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 08/08/2018 15:17

This message from the other band member appeared on Facebook yesterday:

With heavy thoughts and hurting hearts, our collective has reached a consensus concerning very serious allegations against a highly regarded member of our group.

Geo String/ Vlad Blyat has engaged in a number of abusive actions against those he calls comrade. He has committed sexual assault, physical/verbal abuse, controlling/ manipulative behavior and he refuses to own his actions.

He was offered a path to restorative justice, but he again refused to acknowledge or respond to the allegations of abuse in a meaningful way.

This public outing of Geo/Vlad, as a rapist and serial abuser is the only option we were left with. He must be held accountable by the collective if he wont accept accountability on his own.

The included a line about bricking women in the teeth, and implying stamping on their heads.

Someone's written on their facebook page "So, let me get this straight. A man who advocated violence against women has been found to be perpetrating violence against women, and people are surprised?"

Well, exactly.

The idiots aren't calling the police on him though, as they don't believe in the police (as they're anarchists). Or - the man who broke this news says they won't anyway. I really hope the women he is accused of assaulting feel differently and go to the police.

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CardsforKittens · 08/08/2018 16:40

Restorative justice? Makes me think of that John Irving novel (Hotel New Hampshire?) where one of the characters dresses up as a bear in order to deal with a rapist.

There is no restorative justice for sexual assault. Twats.

LangCleg · 08/08/2018 16:46

Now there's a surprise - the rot goes back decades and continues to this day, and women get no justice then or now, in a whole series of separate incidents. And now the rapists have invented a new word to justify not facing justice: "carceral feminism."

Exactly. Don't worry about finding the other one. I'm sure there are plenty more. I could give examples of other lefty-campaigning musicians found out doing exactly the same thing with their mates thinking a sanctimonious Facebook or Tumblr post is sufficient "restorative justice".

heresyandwitchcraft · 08/08/2018 18:20

How do they keep figuring out these punitive labels for feminists who are actually care about females? It's bizarre! When did they get to be the boss of feminism?!
I am a carceral feminist and proud of it.

ILikeyourHairyHands · 08/08/2018 18:25

Well fuck me sideways and colour me purple.

Violent man does violent things. No shit Sherlock.

Why anyone would even be slightly surprised by this beggars belief.

And 'restorative justice' my fucking arse.

FloralBunting · 08/08/2018 18:35

I think our erstwhile opponents perhaps think we are gleeful about these persistent revelations about the nature of the proponents of their ideology.

In reality (apart from the gut searing rage that arises in response to a man behaving in this way) I feel very similar to the way I feel when my kids get themselves in a pickle after repeated warnings from me.

I'm not telling my kids not to touch the oven because I'm with-holding a great experience from them. I'm warning them of something which will damage.

When I warn about the consequences of allowing the kind of social changes that tolerate certain horrendous behaviour, I'm not doing it because I want to be mean. I'm doing it because these nasty fuckers will take whatever is offered and eat your arm off in the process.

KatVonSweet · 08/08/2018 18:38

Apparently they are not going to report to the police as they are anarchists and f*ck da Police etc etc

They are also guilty of deleting trans people's requests to take their stupid inflammatory hateful song down.

What a bunch of utter tossers

CesiraAndEnrico · 08/08/2018 18:40

The video has gone of the song.

User closed down their account.

Woke guy that did that "terfs are trash" song accused of sex crimes
CesiraAndEnrico · 08/08/2018 18:48

Apparently they are not going to report to the police as they are anarchists and fck da Police etc etc*

I was knee deep in anarchists when I squatted back in the 80s

In practice, to me, the Never Involve Plod thing looked like a way for the stronger to enjoy their power, while ideological handcuffing the weaker ones from fighting back effectively, so the stronger never had to pay any real consequences for the shit they did.

It didn't really look any different from my earlier years of seeing moustachioed middle aged men picking on their perpetually worried looking wives and kids, pulling the "What will the neighbours think !" card to make sure they never got any ideas about putting a spanner in the works.

The anarchists had cooler clothes than the be-cardiganed middle age men, but under the surface my gut decided they were of the same ilk.

Bowlofbabelfish · 08/08/2018 18:50

I am a carceral feminist and proud of it.

You and me both.

SirVixofVixHall · 08/08/2018 18:53

Hardly surprising. I had to step away from social media for a bit after viewing that “song” as it disturbed me so much.

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 08/08/2018 18:56

Here are the lyrics, before they get deleted from the internet too:

TERF Trash

It’s not hard to use the right words
When you’re talking to people
And you know the ones they prefer
It’s not that complicated
To use respectful language
It’s the least you can do
If you don’t it shows the truth
About you and your loyalty
To the patriarchy
Your false feminism
Hides your misogyny

TERFs are trash
We won’t stand for trans exclusionary feminism
There’s nothing radical about traditional gender binaries
If you intentionally
misgender anybody
You’re a sexist piece of trash
That deserves a brick to the teeth
Equality is for everybody
You gotta lot of nerve
coming round with that
SWERF talk TERF talk
Gonna get that sidewalk curb stomp

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raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 08/08/2018 18:58

The anarchists had cooler clothes than the be-cardiganed middle age men, but under the surface my gut decided they were of the same ilk.

So true.

When I found myself in a relationship with DV in my 20s, it took ages for me to call the police as i'd had it drummed into me when a teen that only grasses called the police.

It was only when a friend eventually called the police that I started gaining back some control. I have no such stupid qualms about calling them now.

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raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 08/08/2018 19:01

Gender Identity Watch were spot on, then. Back in April, they said:

"Tim Middaugh and Geoff Stringer are two white men who suck at music and are probably rapists, given their penchant for talking about how they want to curb stomp women for knowing men have penises."

"They apparently live in St. Louis, Missouri, so be on the look out for these scary white straight men."

(Although, there are no allegations against Tim Middaugh AFAIK).

genderidentitywatch.com/2018/04/19/tim-middaugh-and-geoff-stringer/

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Popchyk · 08/08/2018 19:07

The screenshot in the OP is signed by someone called Timbo, who presumably is the Tim Middaugh person referred to.

So Timbo has turned on Geoff Stringer and is calling him out for his crimes.

heresyandwitchcraft · 08/08/2018 19:09

Also for the record, Rose of Dawn has got the song as part of her video (starts at about 07:30)

Thanks again to all Rose's work in this area, and informative videos.

CesiraAndEnrico · 08/08/2018 19:11

it took ages for me to call the police as i'd had it drummed into me when a teen that only grasses called the police.

That's it exactly. The people most likely to gain from a communal aversion to use the normal social avenues to protect the vulnerable manipulate the less strong by creating the aversion and enforcing social sanction on those that don't toe the line.

The details of how the aversion/social sanction gets presented depends on the group's sub culture. But it's all malevolent self interest cut from the same cloth.

Those women aren't calling the police because if they do they will be shunned. At a time when they need the people around them not to push them into the cold.

Ereshkigal · 08/08/2018 19:26

That never happened. Woke bros promoting violence and are violent misogynists! Perish the thought!

Ereshkigal · 08/08/2018 19:28

What does offered a path to restorative justice even mean? Jeez, they really don't give a shit about women.

I know. They can fuck right off with that.

CesiraAndEnrico · 08/08/2018 19:59

I suppose Geo String might be a more common name that you might first immagine.

And it could be coincidence that 2 Geo Strings are in a music group. And they both attract allegations of violence towards women

This a a crowd founder set up by one Geo String (according to an anachist group on facebook) to help his band mate,

See the first comment

www.gofundme.com/comrade-bo039s-medicalsurvival-fund

MinesaBottle · 08/08/2018 20:57

What struck me when I heard that song, even more than the lyrics, was the tone of voice they sang in. They sounded incredibly angry and vicious. The sort of men who really hate women. Looking at the comments on that gofundme link, it doesn't surprise me at all that one of them may be the man being accused of DV.

AngryAttackKittens · 08/08/2018 21:12

I am so shocked that a man who wrote a song about kerbstomping disobedient women hates women and likes hurting us. Behold my shocked face.

raisinsarenottheonlyfruit · 08/08/2018 21:15

This is the crowdfunder comment, in case it gets pulled:

Woke guy that did that "terfs are trash" song accused of sex crimes
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riiiiight · 08/08/2018 21:23

He was offered a path to restorative justice

Ah we asked him to say sorry but he didn't so we're just going to wine on FB.

Maybe write a song about it? Will they offer him a kerbstomping? He gets restorative justice for his crime. Women get smashed in the teeth for theirs.

OlennasWimple · 08/08/2018 21:32

Hiding in plain sight Angry

Sarahconnor1 · 08/08/2018 21:36

I'm so surprised. Said no one ever.

When I first saw that video I wondered if the lyrics were fantasies now I think they were just recounting their previous.

Restorative justice ffs. In cases like this it just allows men to get away with violence against women how very very progressive. And the whiny statement is all about the abuser not a word about the victim(s).