As I was saying about the police.....

[Winniesalot]

Wtf is "misgendering"?! Genuinely have no clue what this might be and whatever it is was totally and utterly non-intentional.

To those who doubted - this is 100% genuine.

To those who thought I was being rude that night - I'd like to make the point that nothing I said was directed at the person. I was making genetic statements for the purpose of conversation, not carrying out a personal attack on one person.

If this stays up then I will post a screenshot of the text I received from the PO.

she was in danger of being hurt or harmed by this individual

FFS they had a difference of opinion. That's it. A heated discussion between 2 friends who did not agree.

I am still puzzled about the OP’s saying that her remarks were the catalyst for a torrent of abuse from others. How did that happen?

Me too Bertrand

I just went on holiday for the best part of two weeks.

Because of that I missed the sturdy pyjamas.

Curse you Mediterranean.

Total guess work on my part but I suspect it may be an attempt to get other friends 'onside' that's back fired when those other friends have agreed with the OP. Just a guess though, I've no idea.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets

Ah, but you've seen some superb thinking as it morphed into sturdy earmuffs.

Because of that I missed the sturdy pyjamas.

Missed you too babe.

So lets get this right:

Women, at risk of actual rape, are to wear Sturdy Pyjamas [TM]
Transwomen at risk of being offended, are to wear Sturdy Earmuffs [TM].

So if a woman wears a Sturdy Earmuff, does that make them a Transman? What if they wear the earmuffs AND the pyjamas - are they Bi? Or Non-binary?

Gosh this is confusing. Our marketing department is going to have a field day.

Missed you too babe. wink

That's a flirty little n/c you're in there

That's a flirty little n/c you're in there

Any time. Well, when the Incredible Sturdy Pyjamas are in the wash, obvs. They are incredibly sturdy.

Even when they are taken out of context.

Yeah it's ironic how totes up for it you are in those sex resistant garments really...

So, meet you at the usual place, usual time? Bring a can-opener.

Oh good god

GET A ROOM

Is it OK to say I'm a bit aroused by this flirting?

I think she's saying that you have been a bit cavalier about women's safety

A cavalier attitude is what I've come to expect from Knight .

Just had a read of the GG thread as the sturdy pajamas things seems too ridiculous.

TBF the conversation seems to have gone.

Woman: Many women would not feel safe sleeping in a very close proximity to a man they didn't know
Repsonse (which bizarrely and entirely misses what "feels safe" in this context means to a woman): Oh well wear some study pajamas and then no-one will see anything

???

Women are not simply scared of men seeing bits of their bodies they shouldn't see (although clearly that is a bit issue with "peeping" offences)
We are also scared of men touching bits of their bodies that they shouldn't be touching

In which case "sturdy pajamas" are fuck all help.

I find it weird that a woman saying about feeling safe in this way would be construed as simply meaning she is worried someone might get an accidental flash of thigh or something. I don't understand how that train of thought went.

Leaving aside nightwear choices for a moment, this is a very strange state of affairs. I hope OP is back.

A cavalier attitude is what I've come to expect from Knight

Maybe knight is being modest with their rank. Perhaps Prince Rupert of the Rhine or the Earl of Essex is more apt

Is it OK to say I'm a bit aroused by this flirting?

'S not the FWR dogging thread Vicki.

Thank you R0wanTrees. That is useful and a good point about contagion.

To the posters who are mocking and jeering at me, may I ask what effect you are hoping to have on me?

What reaction do you want?

Keep giving us your ideas and we'll hold them up to the light.

Your reactions are your choice.

Its really important ADarkandStormy, I've watched and read many interviews etc by prominant activists who represent charities and organisations advocating for rights for people who are transgender. Almost without exception high suicide figures for young people are referred to. The impact of this on vulnerable young people needs to taken more seriously. It is also (and bizarrely) the case that in this area alone, the standard Samaritans comments & links etc are not included.

There will then be an incredibly intensifying effect given the nature and reliance on social media / youtube etc.

The statistics are stated often to make the point that this group of people are especially vulnerable, yet in constantly restating these figures what then is the effect on the vulnerable group? Its not that difficult to consider the likely outcomes.