Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

They said that CR were keen to exploit cliff ruling, but the Sun were more likey running scared of TRAs and using the excuse of the legal situation to exploit the freedom of press angle.

What do Private Eye say?

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1027604832029499392

I don't think Private Eye have the story on their website yet but that is shots of the printed article. About half and half split between talking about the Carter Rucktions and about the Bradley case itself (including pointing out that Bradley's own statement effectively admitted doing what is being investigated).

From the Private Eye article,

John Simpson following the Cliff Richard ruling ,

"How many crooks and scumbags will try to take advantage of this from now on?"

It seems that the TRAs are lurking, by the number of deletions, yet none has the courage to address the issue.

StepBackNow do you mean WhereDoWeBeginToCovetClarice's deletions?

She self-reported them as she suggested something about someone underage who's yet to be convicted of a crime and decided on reflection she it wasn't fair to let the posts stand.

although it was a good question IMO

OK, thanks. :)

Sue Pascoe who also gave witness evidence to the 2015 Women and Equalities Committee Transgender Equality Inquiry now working for Channel 4, announced 6/8/18:

"Channel 4 has appointed Sue Pascoe of Soaring Spirit Limited as an advisor on Inclusion.

Sue will work closely with Chief Human Resources Officer, Caroline Ross and teams across the business to help Channel 4 fulfil its ambition to be a more creative and inclusive organisation. Channel 4 will launch a new inclusion initiative this autumn.

Sue is a successful leader and management consultant who has worked extensively with major businesses on significant people and change initiatives both as the global head of consulting and board member for a multinational outsource provider and for many years as a Consulting Partner at PwC.

Sue is also a woman with a trans past who is on the front line of working on seeing our society become more inclusive. She is also a trustee of the largest LGBT+ and sexual health charity in the North East of England.

Caroline Ross said: “We are pleased to have Sue supporting us as we positively embrace our changing business environment and how we drive creativity and inclusivity for competitive advantage through our people and programmes.”

Sue Pascoe said: “I am really excited about working with colleagues at Channel 4 on this important initiative. It’s clear to me they ‘get it’, that being a creative and inclusive organisation will help drive the future success of Channel 4.”

(Confirmed on thread that the charity referred to above is Yorkshire MESMAC)
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331095-Channel-4-appoints-a-new-advisor-on-inclusion

Like Jess Bradley, Sue Pascoe was interviewed by Sky News for its program about GRA

Sue Pascoes's witness statement:
data.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/committeeevidence.svc/evidencedocument/women-and-equalities-committee/transgender-equality/oral/23159.html

SP follows evidence given by Peter Dunne, Visiting Researcher, New York University Law School (now University of Bristol 2017 /TELI / TENI), Karen Harvey, Chair, a:gender, James Morton, Manager, Scottish Transgender Alliance, and Ashley Reed initiator of online petition on gender self‑definition

Peter Dunne
www.bristol.ac.uk/law/people/peter-r-dunne/index.html

‘A woman with a trans past’

Surely should be

‘A woman with a man’s past’?

Or a ‘woman with a male body’?

I wonder generally how many new ventures are being set up as companies and not charities because this was on the horizon re charity trustees?
From 1 August 2018, new disqualification reasons will be added: these will include being on the sex offenders’ register...

I wonder generally how many new ventures are being set up as companies and not charities because this was on the horizon re charity trustees?
From 1 August 2018, new disqualification reasons will be added: these will include being on the sex offenders’ register...

How interesting.

When was it announced and how can I find out more info?

Does that include trustees already existing before 1 Aug or only new people?

From 1 August 2018, new disqualification reasons will be added: these will include being on the sex offenders’ register...

25 July 2018 ITV
'Shocking number of sex offenders removed from register'

"Nationally, in the last 6 years over a thousand offenders whose offences were so serious they went to jail for at least 30 months succeeded in coming off the register - more than half had committed offences against children. Good Morning Britain put in a Freedom of Information request to police forces in the North West and got figures from Cumbria, Greater Manchester and Merseyside.

Being on the register means you have to tell the police if you move, if you spend time with children, if you want to leave the country and are subject to home visits and computer searches.

Greater Manchester: 83 offenders appealed to be removed from the register. 44 (55%) were successfully removed.
26 (59%) of those removed involved a victim under 16.

Merseyside: 65 offenders appealed to be removed from the register.
45 (69%) were successfully removed, 33 (73%) of those removed involved a victim under 16.

Cumbria: 20 offenders appealed to be removed from the register. 17 (85%) were successfully removed. 11 (65%) of those removed involved a victim under 16.

Cheshire and Lancashire didn't respond to the Freedom of Information request."

www.itv.com/news/granada/2018-07-25/abusers-removed-from-sex-offenders-register/

see also:
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5989493/1-200-sex-offenders-names-removed-register-despite-placed-indefinitely.html

Looks like Datalounge.com are trying to keep the Bradley story off the website - here’s a couple of their users attempts to start threads:

twitter comment re Eden Ladley (NUS officer who recently appeared on Young Labour panel with Jess Bradley and Lily Madigan) incl Ladley's part in protest outside Julie Bindel's 'Pimping of Prostitution' book talk in Sheffield, Nov 2017

twitter.com/djandyhealey/status/1027653799991799808

current thread includes discussion about role/actions etc of Eden Ladley NUS Officer:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3329447-People-Who-Oppose-Trans-Rights-Have-No-Place-In-Labour-Says-The-First-LGBT-Mayoral-Adviser?messages=100&pg=1

What is WLW?

Was that the Eden Ladley endorsed by JB for the NUS position? I think I posted a screenshot of the Twitter recommendation up thread but didn’t look into it further.

Urban dictionary says WLW = women loving women

I am leaving Eden’s YouTube video for when she ran for ”women’s officer” here:
m.youtube.com/watch?v=ge2fw9zsHDE

Just for reference....

That walking down the stairs, hand on hip, with the coquettish look to the camera is just so iconic.

And brave, I'd go arse over elbow if I tried that.

The whole scene made me think of Nelson Madela's long walk out of prison in 1990.

But with lippy and more sass.

Errr why is the BMJ quoting Action for Trans Health as a serious and credible source in an article about Trans Health issues?

mobile.twitter.com/bmj_latest/status/1027585513534963713

Wanderabout there's a thread on the BMJ article here:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3331391-BMJ-Trans-health-needs-more-and-better-services

I have nothing to add except that you lot are amazing and WHEN, not if, this kafkaesque nightmare blows up, and safeguarding and women's rights are restored, it will be because of threads like this.
Nevertheless, they persisted.

I have nothing to add except that you lot are amazing and WHEN, not if, this kafkaesque nightmare blows up, and safeguarding and women's rights are restored, it will be because of threads like this.
Nevertheless, they persisted

x2

Gregor Murray's (also male born person who identifies as non-binary) resignation as Children's Covernor reported today in national press.

The BBC reporting focusses on Murray's explanation in resignation letter:
'Scotland's only openly-trans councillor has said they are stepping back from frontline politics.'

(extract)
"In a statement on social media, Dundee councillor Gregor Murray said mental wellbeing, personal issues and online abuse were behind the decision.

The SNP councillor also said they had received threats to their life.

They will remain a councillor but will no longer be convener of the children and families services committee or an equal opportunities spokesperson." (continues)

Discussed in current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3332582-Trans-councillor-leaves-roles-after-threats-to-life?msgid=80136328#80136328

Previous threads discuss the background to Murray being asked 'to consider their position" by Dundee City Council leader John Alexander:
reported in Dundee Chronicle:
www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/697908/childrens-convener-told-consider-your-position-after-further-foul-mouthed-outbursts-discovered-online/

www.thecourier.co.uk/fp/news/local/dundee/703892/childrens-convener-resigns-following-row-over-expletive-laden-social-media-outbursts
thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3316098-Childrens-Convenor-Elected-Councillor-calls-women-cunts-on-Twitter-rants

For those interested, this article from published by The Huffington Post March 2018 explains Jess Bradley's belief/theory (?) that there is 'no such thing as a real woman'

it concludes:
"Like privilege, gender is also a process; one that happens to us as well being enacted by us. Gender has different meanings depending on social context; being a black woman is different from being a white woman, a Northern working class woman different from a Southern middle-class sub-urban woman, a trans woman different from a cis woman. Acknowledging the differences between different types of woman is important and useful, so long as this discussion acknowledges that these differences are part of the diversity of womanhood, and not used to exclude some people from it.

Our relationships with our own genders are similarly fluid and ever-changing: my gendered experience is different at work, when out at a cafe with mates, when walking home at night. Because of gender's dynamic nature, it's not something which can be objectively verified as being true or false, real or unreal. In all of this discussion about who gets to be included in womanhood; we must acknowledge that there is no such thing as a 'real' woman"

www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/jess-bradley/trans-women_b_15486434.html

It reminded me of an argument Jane Fae made during The Jeremy Vine Show Radio 2.

Jane Fae described how women had different life experiences and one couldn't for example compare the lived experience of a 'poor' woman to the Queen. However this in fact illustrates the opposite point. That in respect to being a girl and woman, biology is the shared experience regardless of wealth, occupation etc.

The Queen is also a woman and mother. A royal woman can become poor and a poor woman can become royal.

Conversely, the thing that the Queen and a 'poor' women can never experience as opposed to Jane Fae is being a 'trans' woman.

Additionally both women have faced discrimination because of their sex, even the queen. If she had had a younger brother, he would have been crowned king etc.

The interview was prompted by David Lewis' appliction to become a woman's officer for his local CLP #WomanWednesday

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3256772-Guess-how-I-got-suspended-from-the-Labour-Party?pg=16

The diversity of womanhood.
By josh, man,
It's still not diverse enough to include penises.