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Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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MipMipMip · 03/08/2018 13:54

There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

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BettyDuMonde · 03/08/2018 15:25

If JB really did found TELI with Brewer (and isn’t just making grandiose claims, crikey knows JB claims to have founded all manner of minority interest action groups) it would certainly explain why TELI has dropped JB like a hot potato (and might explain why the fancy privacy lawyers got involved).

Brewer wants to be able to continue advising the government without the taint of JB’s alleged behaviour.

Members of the WEP should be asking for an alternative speaker for conference asap.

LangCleg · 03/08/2018 15:32

Members of the WEP should be asking for an alternative speaker for conference asap.

Members of the WEP should certainly be advised of this information.

LeiaTheSlaya · 03/08/2018 15:32

Actually, her speaking at the WEP, with the connection she has to the high profile TRA campaigner, Jess Bradley - maybe a WEP member will ask her how the GRA & self ID protects women from men self IDing as women, who get a sexual kick from exposing their lady dicks in changing rooms, or offices, or bus stops? Seeing as she has all the knowledge & expertise, she should be best placed to address concerns over the sexual fetishises also now under the trans umbrella having unfettered access to women's spaces where they are vulnerable and/or in a state of undress.

Maybe a lawyer expressly stating that no woman has any right to privacy, dignity or safety from male fetishists might wake up the attendees of the WEP conference?

Procrastinator1 · 03/08/2018 15:37

According to the twitter thread about the WEP, Michelle is going to be involved in a question and answer session, not speaking to the motion. An ideal opportunity for any members of the WEP who want to know about Jess Bradley's contribution to put some questions.

Floisme · 03/08/2018 15:39

Are any poster going to the WEP conference? I'm sure we could come up with some questions to put to Brewer.

Floisme · 03/08/2018 15:40

Ha Procastinator beat me to it!

LeiaTheSlaya · 03/08/2018 15:41

Floisme, that's a great idea - maybe a new thread on that very topic would be in order?

Lots of questions for any WEP members to choose from, kind of thing?

Melamin · 03/08/2018 15:41

Presumably she has been working closely with JB, knows all about this stuff and has still been taken in with the rhetoric that anyone who describes themselves as trans is not what JB is. So what chance anyone else?

Melamin · 03/08/2018 15:42

(Either that or she still thinks JB is a woman, the same as any other woman Hmm)

BettyDuMonde · 03/08/2018 15:42

There is a WEP branch officer in one of my GC groups. I will send her the link to this thread (she’s already seen the recent WEP specific post).

R0wantrees · 03/08/2018 15:42

See TELI Co-founder Tara Hewitt's report for UHSM which records data on 'gender' and 'trans' as 'protected characteristics':

"As part of monitoring access to services and to meet our statutory reporting duty under the Equality Act 2010, the Trust produces reports breaking down patients who have accessed our services by age, ethnicity, gender and religion/belief. We recognise the need to extend this reporting to cover more of the protected characteristics included in the Equality Act and have actions in place to move towards this goal"

p5-7

www.uhsm.nhs.uk/content/uploads/2015/12/Annual-Equality-Diversity-Inclusion-Report-2017-Publish-Version.pdf

BettyDuMonde · 03/08/2018 15:54

I wonder why TELI has only had 1 ‘annual conference’? They should’ve had 2 and be advertising dates for the 3rd, surely?

Anyway, here’s the line up from the first one - as published on Michelle Brewer’s chambers website:

www.gardencourtchambers.co.uk/event/trans-equality-legal-initiative-launch-conference/

Mermaids had a slot, unsurprisingly.

Melamin · 03/08/2018 15:58

www.teli.org.uk/annual-conference/

Yes - it was quite a gathering!

AtreidesFreeWoman · 03/08/2018 15:59

Excellent thread title.

LeiaTheSlaya · 03/08/2018 16:17

That is an interesting line up.

This section seems intriguing:

Justice, Strategic Litigation and Impact of Exclusionary Provision Plenary
Tara Hewitt
Equality, Diversity & Inclusion Lead UHSM NHS Foundation Trust
Jane Ryan
Bhatt Murphy Solicitors
Allan Briddock
One Pump Court Chambers
Michelle Brewer
Garden Court Chambers
Becky Kent
Scottish Transgender Alliance

The impact of Exclusionary Provision? Specifically targeting the sex based exemptions in the EA2010? What other exclusionary provisions could warrant 5 speakers? And interesting that Scottish Trans Alliance are represented by someone other than James Morton. However, more interesting is that they are listed in the 1st link as Becky Kent, and then the 2nd as Becky Kaufmann.

R0wantrees · 03/08/2018 16:22

TELI first event.

Does anyone know what the status of TELI is?

Is it a company, charity, lobbying group?

Many of the contributers have played key roles in advising policy and / or media discussions.

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
R0wantrees · 03/08/2018 16:30

link to current TELI team which includes
Peter Dunne :Lecturer in Law at University of Bristol

Co-Convener for Health
Peter is a lecturer in law at the University of Bristol. His research focuses on gender, sexuality and law. His work has been cited by numerous public bodies, including the Equality Authority of Ireland, and the House of Commons Select Committee on Women and Equalities. Prior to entering academia, Peter worked as a human rights advocate in the United States of America and Europe. He is former board member for the Transgender Equality Network Ireland (TENI)

www.teli.org.uk/our-team/

Blog co-written by Peter Dunne & Tara Hewitt:
ohrh.law.ox.ac.uk/gender-recognition-self-determination-and-segregated-space/

littlbrowndog · 03/08/2018 16:30

Yeah gads. This lot are all interlinked.

Unreal

LeiaTheSlaya · 03/08/2018 16:31

They describe themselves in a few ways, all very vague & not specific. No address visible on their website either.

a new initiative aiming to provide the ultimate forum for the discussion of trans rights in the United Kingdom

works to build a collective and strategic response to the widespread and entrenched discrimination and inequality experienced by members of the trans community.

TELI launched this project

So an initiative, a project, a forum, a collective. Hmm

BettyDuMonde · 03/08/2018 16:31

There is no mention of TELI on the companies house site.

BettyDuMonde · 03/08/2018 16:33

Nor the charities commission site.

vagender · 03/08/2018 16:35

On Facebook, they call themselves "a coalition of trans third sector organisations, human rights lawyers and diversity professionals". No mention of being a company or registered charity.

BettyDuMonde · 03/08/2018 16:36

‘Transgender Equality Network Ireland’

www.teni.ie

StepBackNow · 03/08/2018 16:39

Thanks for the new thread.

Still no TRAs here to defend one of their own?

Floisme · 03/08/2018 16:42

Leia thanks - Procastinator had much the same idea too! I'm supposed to be working at the moment but very happy for someone else to start a thread. I'm sure there area couple of posters on the WEP thread who were planning to go.