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Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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MipMipMip · 03/08/2018 13:54

There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

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R0wantrees · 07/12/2018 12:30

Rose of Dawn on NUS financial difficulties and update on their continuing silence about Jess Bradley's suspension:
'The National Union of Students is facing potential bankruptcy. But will they be missed?'

Hattifattner · 11/12/2018 09:58

rose of dawn has updated:

twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1071905539234381831

Ouch.

calpop · 11/12/2018 10:11

Just watched that Sky News report. Wow. I feel like it could be used in future sociology lectures as evidence of being on the wrong side of history.

It has reminded me of my continuing puzzlement - how can JB, or anybody, identify as "a non-binary woman"? Surely, if TWAW, then JB is a woman, or a trans woman, but how can JB be a non-binary woman? Am I a binary woman then? Even JB themselves hesitates when they say it in the video so I guess a tiny part of their brain realises what utter nonsense is coming out of their mouth. personally, after seeing JB on video for the first time, I see a gay man with some weird fetishes.

Floisme · 11/12/2018 10:40

There was a thread yesterday about the latest Twitter allegations. It seems to have gone so I assume it was deleted. It’s not for me to say what we should or shouldn’t post but there’s a lot of info on this thread and I imagine some of the Mumsnet monitors would be very happy to see it disappear.

BitterAndOnlySlightlyTwisted · 11/12/2018 11:10

This would explain why the NUS are taking so long to make a statement if what Rose of Dawn has shared is correct or is an approximation of the actual truth.

Melamin · 11/12/2018 11:16

I see a gay man with some weird fetishes Not sure that Jess is gay either.

Hattifattner · 14/12/2018 10:09

Rose has added a new youtube video - for those who have missed some of the latest allegations.

Letshopeitsallok · 14/12/2018 10:29

It’s a relief that video shows Jess Bradley’s face and not Jess Bradley’s exhibitionist cock. Wonder why that was left out of the ‘poor me’ narrative.

Letshopeitsallok · 14/12/2018 10:31

The irony of complaining about sexual harassment from someone who wanks at bus stops for the thrill.

R0wantrees · 03/01/2019 14:50

Rose of Dawn
twitter.com/Rose_Of_Dawn/status/1080120084566282241

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Vixxxy · 04/01/2019 08:46

I wondered if there had been any updates yet. I refuse to ever let this thread go until the results are known, as I still think its a 'brush under the carpet and keep on parrotting that this never happens!' thing. Like usual.

Vixxxy · 04/01/2019 09:21

That Ezra..after all that heartpouring. The talking about the complaints made about Jess (saying that sexual aggression and sexual assault were clearly not malice and jess didn't mean any harm, or something [hmm), after admitting that stuff on the blog was dodgy, and also mentioning the getting cock out in public photos rather than 'just' child rape fantasies and such..finishes it with basically "next time hide it better, as you know terfs are 'after you' " [/hmm]

SpareRibFem · 04/01/2019 12:23

I don't know if Rose of Dawn is on mumsnet but I'd like to say Thank-you for not letting this go Flowers

Katvonbatshit · 04/01/2019 18:04

Yep. Rose of dawn has been great!

I was just nosing round the Action For Trans Health Facebook page and they've issued a statement over this. Basically it's a clusterfuck. They attempt to victim blame and get a rocket up their arse. They then attempt to blame t*rfs. Obviously.

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Katvonbatshit · 04/01/2019 18:07

JB was clearly at the heart of that organisation, so many images of them. Why is this person constantly not held to account?

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
Floisme · 04/01/2019 18:19

So revealing the way that ATH statement prioritises 'the need to protect Jess' (their words) over any need to establish the truth.

R0wantrees · 04/01/2019 18:44

Someone has complained on the screenshot above that Action for Trans Health were "given reports over 8 months ago"

Transcrime, describes how Jess Bradley:
"first National Union of Students (NUS) trans officer was reported in the Mail on Sunday on 29 July 2018 as having been suspended over allegations that “she posted explicit photographs on an online blog”.

& continues,
" Bradley is the founder and ( until April 2018, listed under birth name Josh Bradley) a trustee/director of taxpayer-funded Action For Trans Health (ATH), an organisation The Times & Daily Mail investigated and held Bradley accountable for extreme views published in the ATH Manifesto such as provision of free cross sex hormones on demand to children and the release of all transgender prisoners."

transcrimeuk.com/2018/08/02/jess-josh-bradley/

LangCleg · 04/01/2019 18:56

Anti-carceral mfeminism for the win!

I said this would end up worse than the Comrade Delta fiasco and lo, it came to pass.

1hello2hello · 04/01/2019 22:23

Came across this don't know if it's been shared before
twitter.com/makeupnmorphine/status/1071843290373349376

R0wantrees · 09/01/2019 21:31

NUS Trans19 conference Wed 30th Jan - Thu 31st (Manchester University)
event.nusconnect.org.uk/nusevents/detail/196/1548806400000
thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3474518-NUS-Trans-Conference

Rose of Dawn has some interesting suggestions as to why the Trans Conference might be earlier this year, how this might be related to Jess Bradley's suspension and possible outcomes:

'BRADPOCALYPSE SOON! Could Jess Bradley be gone by end of the month?'
Published on 9 Jan 2019
"After countless months, we could finally learn the fate of NUS Trans officer and alleged flasher Jess Bradley on 31 January 2019. The saga is coming to an end. Bring it on."

www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=5&v=g5tmTvHDzRk

Katvonbatshitmermaid · 10/01/2019 06:19

This comment on Rose of Dawn's video made me chortle

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
R0wantrees · 21/01/2019 12:27

NUS trans officers and Jess Bradley's close friends respond to announcement that funding will be cut for Trans Campaign:

"A statement on the defunding of NUS trans campaign:

On January 16th it was formally confirmed that the NUS UK Board has proposed to defund the NUS Trans Officer and Committee for the 2019-2020 period at a minimum, alongside other changes to NUS’ democracy. The specific decision was to defund the NUS Trans Campaign (including it’s full time officer) in order to meet a 12 officer limit - preference a Vice President UD, leaving us without any resourced trans representation for the next year. Here is why we believe this was the wrong decision.

The secrecy with which NUS has chosen to conduct the process of deciding which officer position is worthy of funding suggests that this is a political rather than a financial choice. We believe it was wrong for the UK Board to make this decision, as the Trustee Board should not be setting the political direction of the organisation. There is simply nothing democratic or liberatory about this decision happening without a single conversation with a trans student or representative, especially as the VP Union Development is a member of the Turnaround Board. We believe that trans students deserve to know how and why this decision was made.

In the past ten years, there has been a ~2500% rise in the number of young trans people being referred to the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), based in London. Not all young people will be able to access GIDS due to parental transphobia and cost, so the actual number will be higher. Given that many of these young people will enter NUS-affiliated institutions, the trans student population is probably the fastest growing in NUS’ individual membership. These students have specific welfare and campaigning needs, including healthcare (transition-related or otherwise), administrative barriers, housing inequality, access to gendered spaces and outright institutional and interpersonal transphobia

SUs and education institutions are largely unequipped to support this large influx, meaning it is in this period that trans students will need more support from NUS, not less. So the decision that has been made by UK Turnaround Board with the explanation of “delivering most for members” makes no sense.

Another flawed argument made by Shakira Martin, Chair of the Board is that trans students will be represented by the NUS LGBT+ Campaign. It is surprising that this is a point raised without any conversation with the current LGBT+ officers. It was noted in the original campaign for an NUS Trans Officer that a dedicated officer is required for public policy, representation and organising reason. Moreover, a lack of campaigning on broader LGB issues can lead to transphobic backlash as trans people are seen as hogging the resources that should be for the broader community. This demonstrates the Boards’ clear lack of understanding of inter-community dynamics, trans issues as a whole as well as an unwillingness to acknowledge the expertise of trans activists in our field.

Developments in changes to trans healthcare are moving fast, and not having a resourced trans representative could be catastrophic for trans students being able to engage in this process. We know that access to trans healthcare is in crisis and it is killing trans people. Waiting times are multiples above the NHS's official targets, services are often difficult to reach (especially in Wales), discrimination is common (especially for disabled people, people of colour and intersex people), trans women are lacking essential services, and lack of fertility provisions are leaving trans people with unequal access to reproductive justice.

Trans students are the next generation of trans activists, and we need to be at the forefront of fighting for the lives of our communities, who are dying as a result of medical neglect. There is simply not the capacity for volunteers to do this work as it is highly specialised and requires public policy support which is only available in large NGOs like NUS. This is broadly the case for trans issues in education and wider society, such as campaigning on the Gender Recognition Act reform.

Defunding the NUS Trans Campaign forces volunteers to stand alone against the wave of transphobia in the public sphere. This year, one of NUS’ transgender officers had their home address made public by anti-trans activists. Another has been targeted individually on anti-trans forums.

This coming two years is the worst possible time to slash trans representation in NUS. We believe that the reasons for which the above decision has been taken and the way in which it has been taken shows a fundamental lack of respect for trans students. Cutting trans representation after consultation with trans leaders would have been bad enough, but the leadership of NUS failed even to do that, the bare minimum.

Signed,

Rob Noon, NUS LGBT+ Officer (Open place)
Eden Ladley, NUS LGBT+ Officer (Women’s place)
Ilyas Nagdee, NUS Black Students’ Officer
Rachel O’Brien, NUS Disabled Students’ Officer
Sarah Lasoye, NUS Womens’ Officer"

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3485292-Defunding-of-NUS-Trans-campaign

DeRigueurMortis · 21/01/2019 12:55

Looks like an interesting way to get round the Jess issue....

That said looking at the titles of the signatories there appears to be a lot of duplication (unless I've misunderstood) for a cash strapped organisation.

Equally given the proportion of the trans population, having a dedicated position does seem to be excessive.

DodoPatrol · 21/01/2019 13:03

In the past ten years, there has been a ~2500% rise in the number of young trans people being referred to the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), based in London. Given that many of these young people will enter NUS-affiliated institutions, the trans student population is probably the fastest growing in NUS’ individual membership. These students have specific welfare and campaigning needs, including healthcare

Do they read what they are writing?

If this is new, why has it happened?

If there have always been the same numbers of trans students, how did the previous generations manage without special healthcare/housing/access etc?

(If numbers have risen 25x, I assume the answer is that about 1 in 25 of those students would previously have needed help, and 24 out of 25 would have just got on with life rather grumpily.)

R0wantrees · 21/01/2019 14:19

The secrecy with which NUS has chosen to conduct the process of deciding which officer position is worthy of funding suggests that this is a political rather than a financial choice. We believe it was wrong for the UK Board to make this decision, as the Trustee Board should not be setting the political direction of the organisation. There is simply nothing democratic or liberatory about this decision happening without a single conversation with a trans student or representative, especially as the VP Union Development is a member of the Turnaround Board. We believe that trans students deserve to know how and why this decision was made.

This makes an important point though not neccessarily understoodby the NUS TRAs.

Trans rights activists have for a long time lobbied behind the scenes, influencing policies that especially affect the Safeguarding of children and Women's rights.

2013 Guardian Interview aboutformation andinfluence of Press For Change:

extract re GRA
"Much of their campaigning remained on the quiet. The passage of the 2004 law to give trans people legal status was "remarkable," says [Christine] Burns, because "the government was able to pass an entire act in parliament without anyone throwing a fit in the press". In popular culture, the activists became more forthcoming in their attempts to increase popular understanding of trans issues." (continues)
www.theguardian.com/society/2013/jan/22/voices-from-trans-community-prejudice

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3241837-Why-has-the-trans-lobby-been-so-successful

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3374926-What-influence-does-TELI-have-on-government-public-services-and-charities-policies-Co-founders-include-Jess-Bradley-Tara-Hewitt-and-Michelle-Hudson

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3391330-Prof-Kathleen-Stock-WPUK-speech-at-House-of-Lords-Important-disection-of-the-key-issues-for-MPs-policy-makers-etc-with-ref-to-The-Trans-Equality-Report

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/2993425-Maria-Miller-interviewed-by-Janice-Turner-full-text

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3396859-Weve-been-lied-to-about-Single-SEX-wards-since-2010

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

AngryAttackKittenswrote:
"I'm going to point every "but the nice, harmless old school transsexuals whose movement has been unfairly appropriated by the nasty transgender people" person to this thread from now on.

All the same elements we're seeing now were there in that old BBC roundtable from the 70s with the 4 transwomen, the politician, and the doctor. None of this is new."

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3463920-Lets-go-back-to-2007