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Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii

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MipMipMip · 03/08/2018 13:54

There doesnt seem to be another part 3 coming up si here goes.

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Persistant · 06/08/2018 00:12

To those wondering how due diligence got missed out when choosing some of these people as govt advisors: an unsympathetic mind may just recall those very persistent if untrue rumours about networks of powerful paedophile men around westminster. Police did investigate - last year? - and found nothing. Could there be new networks among all those thousands of employees, advisors and elected members in that square mile that will have each others' backs in a similar way?

LeiaTheSlaya · 06/08/2018 00:36

From the EHRC statement:

Gender’ refers to socially constructed roles of women and men and/or an individual’s conception of their identity. The term is often used interchangeably with ‘sex’, partly in recognition that much of the inequality between women and men is driven by underlying social and power structures rather than by biological sex.

This is where the problem lies - gender has, until the trans ideology juggernaut, always been understood to be a social construct, imposing gender stereotypes on both men & women, and often conflated for sex. The EHRC has expanded the definition of gender in terms of what we are now dealing with - social construct and/or an individual's concept of identity. What % on the general public would have the 1st clue that the question of gender, or use of gender as a word in place of sex, actually has this new expanded definition & that it has fuck all to do with sex? You'll notice that they don't also define sex i.e. adult human male or female.

This is exactly why the likes of Girl Guides have been able to lie by omission - pretending to be a single sex organisation, relying on parents to think they mean sex by saying they are single gender, when they know fine well they are talking about 'individual concept of identity' - which makes them mixed sex.

It's deliberate obfuscation & wilful erasing of the sex based rights women fought for. From the fucking EHRC. No where in that statement is any addressing of women's rights, the impact of this new definition of gender on the single sex protections that women - at the time of the legislation being passed - overwhelmingly supported single sex based services and provisions. Because at the time the EA2010 came in, there was still the Women's National Commission who sought the views of women's groups & service providers.

This is an exert from their report on single sex services

The value of women-only services becomes clear when reading through the comments of the women who took the time to complete our survey:

• 99% of the respondents believe that it is important for a woman who has been sexually assaulted or has experienced any other form of violence to have the choice to access a women-only support service.

• 79% of women said that there is still a need for independent women’s organisations even if mixed organisations and statutory bodies also provide single-sex services.

If even the EHRC will not adequately ensure that the single sex based rights & protections are not upheld (funding to these services forces inclusive policies for trans identified individuals, instead of funding separate specialist services) then it comes down to women, again, having to fight for this to be enforced, strengthened, and locked tight to prevent endless attacks as has been clear from the minute the EA2010 came in.

If you watch the Anne Sinnott interview with Venice Allen, she's confirmed that Sarah Brown brought her 'trans people cannot be excluded from the councils single sex services' amendment, 10 days after the EA2010 came into force. The fact that so many councils & businesses have followed this by replacing sex with gender shows how relentless this stealth lobbying has been going on - the sex based exemptions were not wanted by the trans lobby & they never gave up once the EA2010 was enacted.

theOtherPamAyres · 06/08/2018 01:09

Good stuff, but we are going wildly off-topic. Consider the lurkers catching up and wanting information on Jess Bradley

Datun · 06/08/2018 05:28

Place marking.

R0wantrees · 06/08/2018 06:02

Sarah Brown brought her 'trans people cannot be excluded from the councils single sex services' amendment, 10 days after the EA2010 came into force. The fact that so many councils & businesses have followed this by replacing sex with gender shows how relentless this stealth lobbying has been going on - the sex based exemptions were not wanted by the trans lobby & they never gave up once the EA2010 was enacted
See James Kirkup's collected evidence that sex based exemptions were lobbied against and intended to be reformed. Links to docs are on the document:

"Some facts about the events that preceded the Government statement here that the coming consultation on the Gender Recognition Act will be narrowly drawn and not affect the Equality Act’s single sex exemptions.
I offer these facts because some are claiming “there was never any question of removing/amending EA exceptions.” Those claims are either mistaken or dishonest

August 2015
Stonewall submission to the Women & Equalities Select Committee says MPs should amend the EA to
“remove exemptions, such as access to single-sex spaces”

Jan 2016
Women & Equalities Committee says EA should be amended so that

“occupational requirements provision and / or the single-sex / separate services provision shall not apply”.

July 2016
Govt response to W&E Committee says: “we agree with the principle of this recommendation” on EA exemptions and seeks evidence for “future policy discussions”

July 2017
Govt promises GRA reform “ as part of a broad consultation of the legal system that underpins gender transition.”

July 2017
Stonewall commits to “advocate for the removal” of EA provisions allowing sex-based discrimination.

June 2018
Govt says:
“We are clear that we have no intention of amending the Equality Act 2010, the legislation that allows for single sex spaces.”

In sum: MPs and others told govt to amend/remove Equality Act single-sex exemptions. Govt considered doing so. Then govt ruled it out. / ends"

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R0wantrees · 06/08/2018 06:14

Good stuff, but we are going wildly off-topic. Consider the lurkers catching up and wanting information on Jess Bradley

Jess Bradley/Action for Trans Health has been at the heart of the Trans Rights activism and lobbying groups. Jess Bradley seems to have a great deal of influence and power and this has been accorded to her by individuals and groups representing government and parliament, charities, statutory services and organisations including those concerned with safeguarding vulnerable adults & child protection and legislative policy and frameworks.

TimeLady · 06/08/2018 07:08

It wouldn't surprise me if Joshua Harry Bradley, the NUS director as currently recorded in Companies House, isn't allowed to quietly resign their post.

#weseeyou

TimeLady · 06/08/2018 07:58

GRA consultation document:

  1. We asked those trans men and trans women who were aware of the process but had not obtained or applied for a GRC why they had not applied. When asked why they had not applied:
  • 44% of respondents said that they did not satisfy the requirements;

Given Jess Bradley's well-documented penchant for naturism

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/art-buff-join-in-the-naked-tea-871089

www.facebook.com/vegancooks/

it wouldn't be hard to imagine that the diagnosis of gender dysphoria required currently to obtain a GRC might be hard to attain in such circumstances, and why a more relaxed self-ID policy would seem a good proposal to support.

R0wantrees · 06/08/2018 08:18

From James Kirkup's evidence re Equality Act single sex provision above,
note that Claire McGann references FA comment from its TRans Inclusion Policy with regards 'single gender' sport.
FA discussion previously in this thread re Delia Johnston / Edward Lord
publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmwomeq/390/390.pdf

Claire McGann is one of two lawyers (with Michelle Brewer founder TELI) taking questions re the GRA at the WEP conference:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/a3325882-WEP-conference-questions-for-panel-of-trans-rights-advocating-barristers

Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
R0wantrees · 06/08/2018 08:22

2015 Delia Johnston comment,
"A female fitness ambassador who was born male has told how she despised sport before she changed sex. Today 59-year-old Delia Johnston is an avid netball and badminton player as well as a self-confessed gym addict. Yet before her transition and subsequent gender reassignment surgery she refused to even watch sport on TV. “I hated it with a vengeance,” she said. Delia’s passion was sparked after she worked as an ambassador at the 2012 Olympics. But keeping fit became a matter of life and death just over a year ago, when she had an emergency double heart by-pass operation. Five months afterwards she became hooked on netball, using her 6ft height to huge advantage. She now runs her own business, Trans in Sport, to encourage other transgender or transsexual people to take the fitness plunge"

www.miltonkeynes.co.uk/news/how-i-hated-sport-before-i-changed-sex-1-6715434

Floisme · 06/08/2018 08:33

And Chris Paourus, who seconded the WEP motion, is on the FA Inclusion Advisory Board - so not a huge leap of imagination to wonder whether she and Claire McGann have a connection.

I know some of this may seem off topic to someone joining the thread but this is all about how Bradley, a NUS officer, came to be a) advising the government and b) in a position to hire a a heavyweight law firm when they presumably already have access to legal services through the NUS. If there turned out to be a much larger network at play then that could be significant.

JoanSummers · 06/08/2018 08:47

It wouldn't surprise me if Joshua Harry Bradley, the NUS director as currently recorded in Companies House, isn't allowed to quietly resign their post.

Who is that?

R0wantrees · 06/08/2018 08:59

Acknowledgement of role of Claire McCann (& Stephen Whittle) in the introduction to Women and Equalities Committee
Transgender Equality
First Report of Session 2015–16

publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201516/cmselect/cmwomeq/390/390.pdf

Context of the Womens & Equalities report:
(from introduction)

  1. Trans people have long endured high levels of prejudice (referred to as “transphobia”) and misunderstanding. This is manifested in numerous forms, including discrimination in a wide range of settings (including public services), hostile portrayal in the media, abuse
and violence (including, in some cases, sexual assault and murder). This can undermine trans people’s career opportunities, incomes, living standards, access to social capital, quality of life, and physical and mental health. It is a sobering and distressing fact that in UK surveys of trans people about half of young people and a third of adults report that they have attempted suicide. During the course of our inquiry, the deaths in custody of two trans women, and the case of a trans woman who was placed in a men’s prison, illustrated with particular starkness the issues we were considering. 10. At the same time, there appears to be gathering momentum for change to bring about greater equality for trans people. Issues affecting the trans community are now more widely debated than in the past; and there are growing voices in support of changing how trans people are viewed, portrayed and treated by society.
  1. It was with this background in mind that we decided soon after the election of the Committee to conduct an inquiry into trans equality as our first piece of work. Before commencing the inquiry, we consulted informally with representatives of two key stakeholder organisations, Press for Change and Stonewall.
Jess Bradley - a government advisor on women's rights suspended by NUS over indecent blog. Part iii
ScreamLikeYouMeanIt · 06/08/2018 09:00

I have been pointed this way from a thread I started about jess bradley. I showed a picture of jess bradley to my DH last night who in shock said "I know him from **, he's that guy who once made out with my ear and wouldn't stop sticking his tongue down it when I asked him to stop". My DH often a mentions this incident and its clear he didn't like it and has stuck with him. He had now idea jess bradley had transitioned by self ID ing but was not surprised. Adds quite a bit of weight behind what I think we could be dealing with in self IDing transgender people....

TimeLady · 06/08/2018 09:10

JoanSummers

Both Jess Bradley (resigned) and Joshua Harry Bradley (active) on public record here as NUS directors:

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/08015198/officers

R0wantrees · 06/08/2018 09:30

Neither Jess Bradley or Joshua Harry Bradley have recorded 'previous names' on the directorship document.

heresyandwitchcraft · 06/08/2018 09:45

Yes, there are a number of listings for JB, which actually don't all come under the same "Person" on Companies House.

Has this been mentioned already as part of the timeline?

One thing that I found interesting is that one of the names in Company House (the Jess Bradley that was part of the NUS from Aug-Sept 2017), started a new company with a Greta Schultz and a person called Danny Clearkin on the 19th of March 2018 called "Manchester Business Services Cooperative"

These three (alongside some other names) are also actively listed as part of:

"Manchester in Common" incorporated June 2018
"Manchester in Common Projects and Grants" incorporated 26th June 2018

So this is from the articles of incorporation:
-Manchester Business Services Cooperative appears to be establishing a co-operative whose aims include striving for employment and resources to all its members
-Manchester in Common is also related to a co-operative, this one says its aims include providing networking and opportunities to members, starting new co-operatives, and raise funds.

  • Manchester in Common Projects and Grants is set up to, among other things, provide relief of unemployment/homelessness to people who are marginalised in the city, by providing advice, services, loans and grants. I couldn't see this latter company registered with the charity commission, although they have registered as a charitable company.

I am afraid I don't know really know more about these projects or colleagues, because their online presence is almost absent on Google, but am adding it as a point of interest.

The other point to note is that the correspondence address for Josh Bradley/Greta Schultz on Action for Trans Health appears to be the same as these Manchester companies.

beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/zYCaABZcWVpOFCS_OkA9x7mznMo/appointments

heresyandwitchcraft · 06/08/2018 10:12

Is it very common not to be registered with the Charity Commission? I know very little about it. But I believe we've established that Action for Trans Health does not appear to be registered with them.

Interestingly, neither does Wipe Out Transphobia (the organisation started by the co-founder of TELI Kate Hutchinson). On the Wipe Out Transphobia website, they list their company number as 9086708 - which takes you to a record that says Wipe Out Transphobia appears to have technically dissolved in November 2016? I can find no other record of an organisation to have taken their place.
But there is an article from 2017 allegedly written by Kate Hutchinson reflecting on her meeting with the General Medical Council. She is described on the GMC website as "director of Wipe Out Transphobia." And she is still listed as "Director of Training at Wipe Out Transphobia" on the TELI website. What am I missing here?

gmcuk.wordpress.com/2017/02/06/from-wrexham-to-euston-my-journey-to-meet-the-gmc/

BirthCanal · 06/08/2018 10:17

How can one person be so busy and involved in all these different companies . It seems very strange and different things in different names. What exactly are all these companies?

BirthCanal · 06/08/2018 10:19

Sorry this is described just above I can see

R0wantrees · 06/08/2018 10:19

'NHS England and NHS Scotland Analysis of public consultation on
proposed service specifications for specialised Gender Identity Services for Adults'
(published earlier this year)

Along with NUS, Action for Trans Health & GIRES, an organisation called UK Trans Info is referenced quite a lot.

On its website it says:
"UK Trans Info is a national charity focused on improving the lives of trans and non-binary people in the UK.

Our main aims are to:

Bring together resources from around the UK making them easily accessible to all through one website.
Endeavour to add new resources as they become available and to publicise them through social media.
Recognise and attempt to close gaps in the resources that are currently available.
Give trans and non-binary people in the UK a voice by campaigning for our rights.
Work with and educate individuals and organisations to ensure the needs of trans and non-binary people are taken into account.
Promote transparency, clarity and openness within public sector organisations.
Signpost those in need to the resources they require and in some cases contacting organisations or individuals on their behalf.
Promote action and awareness of relevant surveys, conventions, consultations and research projects.
Engage and collaborate with other trans and non-binary organisations to pool resources, strengthen our collective voice and reduce duplication of work."

Not sure if this is a charity or not, there is a FB group as well but not much info about its structure etc

tiac.lgbt/

LangCleg · 06/08/2018 10:24

We really need a visual representation of all this, don't we?

Mossandclover · 06/08/2018 10:31

Replying to a fee pages back... if Ada got kicked out of goldsmiths and is 'without an institution' what is she doing at NUS? She would no longer be a student.

Ereshkigal · 06/08/2018 10:34

Is Ada definitely still at NUS?

heresyandwitchcraft · 06/08/2018 10:51

Is Ada definitely still at NUS?

She is only in a report from the trans committee a co-opted member, so I am not sure what that means in terms of official status. She's not on the main website, just in the accountability report:

"This document contains reports from elected representatives on work they have carried out this year against policy passed at Trans Conference 2016."

Link available here - it's in the first report, pages 8-9
www.nusconnect.org.uk/conferences/trans-students/accountability

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