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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Jess Bradley, suspended - Part II

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LaSquirrel · 30/07/2018 14:00

I thought I would kick off a part II
Part I is here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3320513-Jess-Bradley-first-transgender-student-officer-suspended-after-flashing-photos

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BettyDuMonde · 31/07/2018 07:11

‘Hot take’ from a Medium contributor - holding an alleged sex offender to account is ‘literally no different to racism’.

medium.com/@notCursedE/jess-bradley-suspended-from-nus-c0b0f5d469d8

(I know a lot of kink-type folk and they are the most consent-driven subculture imaginable. Trying to frame us as over the top pearl-clutching-kink-shamers, whilst positioning the correct attitude as mere YKINMK does the actual BDSM community a disservice)

Ereshkigal · 31/07/2018 07:20

Cursed is a PBP on MN, i suspect we last had a visitation from them quite recently though.

you can even see anti trans activists parading around dodgy stats which suggest 80% of trans women don’t have reassignment surgery.

Why is this "dodgy"? It's generous. Only a tiny percentage (less than 5%) have had it. That's all medical intervention for both sexes, not just SRS so it really is vanishingly small. Figures from GIRES.

EntropicTupperwareDrawer · 31/07/2018 07:23

What an extremely longwinded way of saying "NATALT" that article is.

We know that. That's not what we're saying.

Bowlofbabelfish · 31/07/2018 07:26

thebewilderness bit of a derailment that. any thoughts on safegurding in small member run community groups?

Depends on the member ... Grin

Sorry, sorry... but fabulous pun. Intended surely?

No?

Ereshkigal · 31/07/2018 07:27

These are small members though Grin

R0wantrees · 31/07/2018 07:27

small member run Bowl?

Ereshkigal · 31/07/2018 07:28

Snap Grin

EntropicTupperwareDrawer · 31/07/2018 07:29

I know quite a few small member run organsiations Grin

R0wantrees · 31/07/2018 07:29
Grin
Floisme · 31/07/2018 07:29

I'm sure NATALT will be the narrative everywhere - it's about the only credible line they can take (apart from The Geneva Convention). They will want to stamp on anything that suggests Bradley might have been an individual with some influence. And organisations that have worked with Bradley will be just as desperate to play it down - if the allegations turn out to be correct it would be a major embarrassment for them too.

Floisme · 31/07/2018 07:31

Sorry - that took so long to write I've interrupted a good joke Blush

Back to small members.

Bowlofbabelfish · 31/07/2018 07:33

Incredible that this is being justified with linking dissing private sexual behaviour to racism.

Have any kink you want - in PRIVATE. Between CONSENTING adults.

When you (generic you) bring a kink into the public sphere it stops becoming a private sexual act. Depending on what you’re doing and in the presence of whom, it can become exhibitionism, voyeurism, all the way to sexual assault. Forcing the public to engage in a sexual act with you is assault.

Failure to realise this, or knowledge of and doing it anyway shows total disregard for societal boundaries, the law and safeguarding.

The feeling we are left with is of a push to remove sexual boundaries, the ability to say no, the ability to have privacy. Deeply worrying.

Bowlofbabelfish · 31/07/2018 07:34

Well I haven’t seen the pics, nor do I want to, so i can’t comment on the member’s size...

Ah we needed a laugh. Goodness knows there’s not much to laugh about with all this.

Ereshkigal · 31/07/2018 07:37

Whet Cursed doesn't understand, or does and doesn't care, is that the act of ignoring/violating women's boundaries is justifiably considered a red flag to women. So we are already rightly wary of these male people who want to force their way into female spaces.

FermatsTheorem · 31/07/2018 07:46

The pictures (which I have seen, pass the brain bleach) neglected to include a 50p piece or similar for scale, a somewhat egregious oversight. It was, however, as one commenter mentioned, fugly.

Ereshkigal · 31/07/2018 07:47

I concur.

Floisme · 31/07/2018 07:48

Interesting that allies are now feeling emboldened enough to speak. It's taken them long enough. I wonder if we'll hear from Owen Jones soon?

Ereshkigal · 31/07/2018 07:49

The desk picture i saw is pretty damning. I imagine the NUS would know whether or not that was Bradley's desk.

FlippinFumin · 31/07/2018 07:52

I wish more people would trust us mere women. How many times do we have to say that those who shout loudest about access to women's spaces are exactly the ones who should not be allowed access to women's spaces. And how fucking loud was Jess shouting?

BertrandRussell · 31/07/2018 07:52

It's all transmisogyny and kinkshaming, and will blow over in a couple of days. The last bit is certainly true.

OrchidInTheSun · 31/07/2018 07:53

The cartoon depicts a rape. Not two cartoon characters 'having sex'. And however CursedE likes to spin it, the fact is that one of the key voices pushing for self ID and access to women's private single sex spaces is a man who gets sexually aroused by exposing his penis he is turned on by fucking with other people's boundaries. Not having consent is what floats his boat.

And once again, he has demonstrated a blatant disregard for women's lives experiences.

OrchidInTheSun · 31/07/2018 07:56

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Ereshkigal · 31/07/2018 07:58

And this misgendering bullshit is the same thing isn't it? Pushing people to participate in their delusions. Sod that.

It is. All about power. All about being able to control what other people do.

OrchidInTheSun · 31/07/2018 08:02

God my phone totally hates me Angry

TheCountryGirl · 31/07/2018 08:07

*Floisme

Interesting that allies are now feeling emboldened enough to speak. It's taken them long enough. I wonder if we'll hear from Owen Jones soon?*

Please Goddess no! One wanker involved in this story is enough!

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