Jess Bradley, suspended - Part II

[LaSquirrel]

I thought I would kick off a part II
Part I is here
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3320513-Jess-Bradley-first-transgender-student-officer-suspended-after-flashing-photos

There's a point at which "people were hurt but we meant well" just isn't good enough.

"There's a point at which "people were hurt but we meant well" just isn't good enough."

Totally agree with this I mean we could talk about how we assist small community lead projects and charities to get safegurding right from the beginning by providing free support to them or we could link lots of stuff together on a board.

Its not a binary choice Bespin and you don't get to dictate the choices of what is discussed.

We need a flailing smiley.

R0wantrees

exellent I will get my pins and a ball. of string then.

right so the nhs is based in Leeds, and the tavi have a clinic there too.

We need a flailing smiley.

Venn diagrams and big pictures do seem to result in a lot of flailing. Also a lot of agreeing with what people didn't say.

Oh for fucks sake. Now I've got

K I S S L M N O P

going round and round in my head. I knew I should have read my book and not come on here.

Wonder why bespin is so keen to stop people digging? Surely you'd just laugh at people wasting their time... unless you know there's something they might find.

I'm telling you, it's the werewolves.

(If only.)

BiologyMatters

dig away you more than likely will find stuff in these small groups. because as I stated safeguard and policies are often not in place and they are run by there members. I'd love to look at how we correct that especially in the lgbt community we're we have often needed to set up. our own resources. I don't think they are linked but what do I know. I do think there are important questions to ask though

seriously AngryAttackKittens

what's with the werewolves.

That Gazette article just says a union, it doesn't say which (although it may have before).

I would imagine there are a fair few ways to argue this is public interest:

The fact that they are an elected official (in the same way as an mp).

The influence JB has with regard to the GRA and training organisation.

While the things we know about are apparently legal (don't know full details) there are often more incidents. It is possible there were criminal acts and publicising these incidents may help victims come forward (this is one of the arguments against giving rape accused anonymity [ please note I am not in any way suggesting JBhas commuted rape, merely that it is precedent for publicity]).

Totally agree with this I mean we could talk about how we assist small community lead projects and charities to get safegurding right from the beginning by providing free support to them or we could link lots of stuff together on a board.

The way they/you/we "help" by providing fraudulent copies of the EA that promote discrimination against women by removing sex protections? By teaching children in the schools that any deviation from sex rose stereotypes is an indication that a child is transgender?

That kind of "assistance" is doing a lot of damage.

thebewilderness bit of a derailment that. any thoughts on safegurding in small member run community groups?

Bespin
If you want to, why not start a new thread, "safegurding in small member run community groups?" You'll likely find quite a lot of interest, experience and goodwill.

It doesn't require a particularly large safeguarding budget to tell your volunteers - or even your directors - not to get their cock out in public.

R0wantrees this thread is talking about thst very thing trying to link them all up so it would be duplication really. I'm not precious about the idea so if you want to that's fine.

Jess's statement says 'not unlawful'.
Is that the same as legal?
Allegedly there might be images of underage boys 'doing dares', which if true could be very bad for jess indeed. Allegedly that could stretch to publishing or distributing...
I agree with a pp that the wording of the statement regarding consent and the hiring of expensive lawyers might suggest dick pics are the tip of an iceberg. All speculation of course.
How careful do we actually need to be? Regarding libel laws as individuals on an anonymous forum?

Anyone know if it's common knowledge among small community run groups - or even groups given government funding and privileged spots in government consultations - that you probably shouldn't get your cock out in public?

LangCleg that is very true, do why don't they do it, is it a lack of information around there responsibility or training for people do thst they can create polices around such things

thebewilderness bit of a derailment that. any thoughts on safegurding in small member run community groups?

Nothing I wish to share with a person like you.

If you dont like the conversation why on earth would you keep
A) inserting yourself in it
B) slagging it off
C) trying to change the conversation

If its that boring and silly and pointless fot you to read

Go and read something else

Its fucking rude

With any allegation and/or ongoing investigation, its important not to jeopordise either.

Rufustheyawningreindeer

that's a bit harsh, it's late, bed time soon. I think if you dig you will find stuff, most of it probably needed to be found, I don't think linking them will do that I hope it changes cultures in done of these groups. I genuinely do as I think there are unsafe practices out there and I don't want it to take an incident for them to change.

Honestly, with Mesmac it seems like an employee getting their cock out at the bus stop would have ranked as one of the smaller safeguarding violations given the other shit that was going on.