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When you see threads plopped into FWR, especially the curious repeat of well worn subjects, I recommend you check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads being referenced on twitter with screen shots & flagging in either MNHQ or outlets to try & get articles commissioned.

It was, yes. I'm going to have coffee cake after work tomorrow and reminisce about those halcyon days in the forest.

aww, thanks Errol!

Happy Friday!

On a new thread a poster is making a direct appeal for us to stop discussing this ideology because it's harming their mental health.

It makes me very uncomfortable but I don't want to post on a thread where someone is saying they're in distress.

I was looking for the We See You thread. There’s a complete raft of posters at the moment with crap logic and making me do double takes. It’s so very, very obvious.

And I’ve given up worrying too much about causing posters distress - especially in FWR. Given th way this board is being targeted, it’s more likely to be a troll than a genuine post IMO. It’s not unique to FWR either - the post on the main boards about premature twins was in bad faith too.

On a new thread a poster is making a direct appeal for us to stop discussing this ideology because it's harming their mental health.

And none of the early contributors are FWR regulars.

Whether they're genuine or not (I've not seen that thread), that's emotional blackmail. If you know that reading any genre of comment (be it trans, brexit, trump, whatever) then don't read it. The consequences of people not debating the issues around gender ideology - in particular re self ID and the harm to children - could cause much mental and physical harm.

Bunbury says we "must be ever vigilant for MRA bollocks". Of course, her use of 'bollocks' is deliberate.

Having read the OP and the head and tail of the thread, the only thing I'm sure of was that a post which attacked the OP (I think it was trying to avoid being personal but didn't) was way out of line.

Apropos of nothing, does the "I'm On" function show only threads you've posted on?

Bumping

There's certainly a weird yellow-green light in the sky on FWR at the moment.

Just saying there is a poster who reminds me of that song
I’m spinning around spinning around
So prolific but say# the same thing every single time 😝

Apropos of nothing, does the "I'm On" function show only threads you've posted on?

It should. Is yours not?

Errol Mine does but I wanted to check in case I had misunderstood how it worked. Someone said they see threads they don't like on "I'm On". I thought that must mean they've posted on those threads, but I didn't want to say that in front of the poster. What with me being a kind and gentle person.

I suppose someone may post on a thread and then regret it. Presumably if you hide a specific thread it no longer shows up whether you've posted or not.

We disagree on management techniques for community disruptors and I again acknowledge that the FWR is very different because the moderators are non-community.

However, for me, it is notable that replies contribute to the vandalism of and a certain tone on the board. I know some people say it is for the benefit of lurkers. Conversely, I wonder if some lurkers are put off by seeing that the busiest threads are full of non-debate. I wish someone would conduct a research project to establish if there's evidence to support one of those views or others.

It is notable that, as the Stanford and Cornell researchers mention, there is a spreading out to other threads to generate heat and light by some posters. Others, with a style that seems to have been honed on US new sites-style commenting, are just plopping in with their own new threads and rather odd OPs.

Occasionally I do worry about something else - what about the people in the real lives of those who use the board for narc rage? Do they get real life consequences? I say a little bit here and there but honestly? I am uncomfortable with encouraging narc meltdowns.

Popping by for a refresher course. I get what you're saying Arran . Sometimes it's difficult to step away and let it go when the injustice and distortions get extreme.

I am uncomfortable with encouraging narc meltdowns.

Yes - I'm apprehensive that garnering responses feeds a narcissist and possibly increases their sense of entitlement to attention from others around them and toleration of their transgressive behaviour.

In the case of the most recent prolific obvious narc liar, I definitely think a grey rock approach is the wisest. They are going to continue posting aggressive rubbish randomly, and might get bored at one point, but tbh, if you haven't been convinced of their mal-intent by now as a lurker, there's really nothing that can be done to show it.

It's interesting how quickly the potential for disruption emerges. Either through a perceived clumsiness in expression or the interpretation on reading.

I know discussion evolves but when the potential for disruption and moving away from the OP topic arises within the first few posts I tend to think I'd rather not engage than contribute to the derailment. I may be wrong in this.

On other, much longer threads, it's apparent that lots of side-conversation and back and forth can emerge that is a spin-off. It's difficult to know at which point the number of these adds up to disruption/me-railing/de-railing - none of which is attributable to particular individuals but to which they contribute.

I think everyone should try to just talk around that individual. It's tempting to engage to take the piss, and I've been guilty of that, but in terms of direct engagement, just don't do it.

I think brief interaction at the outset is useful - letting initial comments stand completely unchallenged isn't always good - but lurkers are not stupid, they can read for themselves when someone is flailing, and there does come a point, really very quickly, when engaging with a goader becomes very boring for almost everyone involved, lurkers included.

I tend to agree with floral - though there may, unavoidably, be a problem if half a dozen people make their brief rebuttal simultaneously.

One recent disruptor eventually broke talk guidelines in a particularly unpleasant way - those posts now deleted I think, so they may have managed to get themselves banned at least temporarily.