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TensionWheelsCoolHeels · 29/07/2018 20:01

When you see threads plopped into FWR, especially the curious repeat of well worn subjects, I recommend you check for poster history before engaging.

There are a number of posts/posters/threads being referenced on twitter with screen shots & flagging in either MNHQ or outlets to try & get articles commissioned.

OP posts:
LangCleg · 23/10/2018 16:16

Transwidow - we've asked MNHQ about this before but no go, sadly. You could bump it every so often though!

Gulags - we should probably just let one of us post a link to the extant thread(s) and then ignore.

GulagsMyArse · 23/10/2018 16:23

yes, good plan

transwidow · 23/10/2018 16:48

Ah, OK, thanks for trying. I'll bump then when I see this kind of shenanigans.

Needmoresleep · 23/10/2018 16:55

Now our consultation is over, I fear MN FYR will become a battleground for US posters. The first thread was interesting and informative. I suggest linking to that, then ignoring.

Flowers and Brew to the mods.

arranfan · 23/10/2018 17:59

I wish even non-malign posters would check for extant threads before posting. Bloody forum is well nigh unmanageable at the moment.

Over on Site Stuff I asked if we could request thread merging but they said it would be too confusing. As there can literally be 5 threads about the same thing - I find that confusing as it feels like Groundhog Day and it's difficult to track the conversations. Other sites manage it.

BlackeyedGruesome · 23/10/2018 23:37

Aren't you normally on the first page?

IKeepFlouncing · 24/10/2018 01:11

3 in 1

I’m still giving zero fucks

Even looking at history ive noticed script pattern very rarely they brave AIBU.

If it walks like a 🦆, talks like a 🦆 it’s a 🦆

Transparent as fuck

arranfan · 24/10/2018 15:29

We have another 'Recalled to Life' action going on in someone who disappeared after repeatedly refusing to address rebuttals of a spectacularly duff account of statistics that was the recent occasion for an apology to FPFW from the Independent ...

Stand-by for dogged refusal to engage in dialogue...

arranfan · 24/10/2018 16:17

Early deployment of the vitriol gambit. Truly intriguing behaviour.

I think researchers into the disruption of online communities might do well to interview a number of posters here as we have some insights that might be of interest to them.

doublethink · 24/10/2018 19:16

Bumping again

arranfan · 24/10/2018 21:23

In other news, I see that the return of a poster who chooses not to engage is being rewarded with a high volume of replies and one-way interaction. (Stanford and Cornell researchers highlight how successful disruptors can be at garnering responses.) Plus the, "What's Google?" gambit reminds me of someone's present, "What's socialisation" etc. etc.

Antisocial behavior, which includes trolling, flaming, and griefing, has been widely discussed in past literature. For instance, a troll has been defined as a person that engages in “negatively marked online behav- ior” (Hardaker 2010), or a user who initially pretends to be a legitimate participant but later attempts to disrupt the community (Donath 1999).

Empirically, we find that many of these banned users exhibit such behavior. Apart from insults and profanity, these include repeated attempts to bait users (“Ouch, ya got me. What’s Google?”), provoke arguments (“Liberalism truly breeds violence...this is evidence of that FACT”), or de- rail discussions (“All I want to know is...was there a broom involved in any shape or form?”).

...

How do (community disruptors) generate activity around themselves? Do [community disruptors] purposefully try to create discussions, or opportunis- tically respond to an on-going discussion? Here, we find that their behavior differs depending on the community (Figure 2a). On Breitbart and IGN, trolls are more likely to reply to others’ posts, but on CNN, they are more likely to start new discussions (t>9.1, p0.25). Still, across all communities, (community disruptors) appear to be effective at luring other users into potentially fruitless discussions...

arranfan · 25/10/2018 13:01

And the response-garnering, non-responsive would-be community disruptor is still with us.

GulagsMyArse · 25/10/2018 13:05

Here we go again

Feminist4 · 25/10/2018 13:06

If you only want a debate with like-minded people, may I suggest you leave mumsnet and set up your own closed community

FloralBunting · 25/10/2018 13:39

Yes, it would seem this one is very persistent. Maintaining calm and supporting those who are drawn into engagement and are clearly being upset by the goading would seem to be the best course.

wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 25/10/2018 13:46

Thursday is bumpday.

LangCleg · 25/10/2018 13:47

Is nowhere safe?!!

FloralBunting · 25/10/2018 13:53

Lang, they'd like you to think that. I'm just grateful that certain support threads haven't been shat all over recently.

arranfan · 25/10/2018 13:54

Is nowhere safe?!!

It's almost like an echo of contemporaneous social and political events - but more Bunbury-Buttunski than Brecht.

LangCleg · 25/10/2018 13:57

It reminds me of Jackson Pollock. Ubiquitous splattering.

FloralBunting · 25/10/2018 14:07

Aaaand we're back to mansize Kleenex.

ErrolTheDragon · 25/10/2018 14:12

I've never seen a man sized Kleenex. They're more like the size of, oh, I don't know, a kitten maybe, but 2d. Unless you count tissue paper on rolls, I suppose.

heresyandwitchcraft · 26/10/2018 00:12
Halloween Confused
FloralBunting · 26/10/2018 00:17

Cor, the egomania may well just trip this one up over his own laces...

ErrolTheDragon · 26/10/2018 00:36

The hat is perfect for you, heresy!

Sigh. The brief contribution from the midnight misogynist was nice light relief.

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