Firstly, the girls are 5 -7 if I understand correctly, so I can't see many boys of this age identifying as a girl to the extent that they would be asking to attend all-girl residential trips. Your concerns seem very theoretical. It’s not theoretical if it’s GG policy to allow boys who identify as girls to join. But nice try in dismissing the points Agnes is clearly making about safeguarding. That’s something trans activist like to ignore a lot, isn’t it? Safeguarding? Processs and procedures set up to protect children from harm?
If you had been changing surely you would have gone into a cubicle and not got changed without making sure you were somewhere private where no-one could follow you in? Showing up your lack of knowledge, experience and understanding of what is involved in looking after a group of 5-7 yr olds. Did you deliberately exclude the part where Agnes confirmed a child did follow her into the toilet?
Girlguiding’s stance is that the trans child and adult should use the facilities of their chosen gender. This sounds sensible to me. The trans child is the vulnerable one in this situation. I would hope that a Leader would make sure a trans child was comfortable with the arrangements and had privacy if they needed it, and that if something did happen (e.g. a girl got upset) that it would be dealt with sensitively. Spoken like a true trans activist - they are 5-7 yr old girls, all vulnerable and all deserving of privacy & dignity. But again, it helps trans ideology to ‘centre’ only trans children and ignore the needs of other children who Agnes is also responsible for and has to consider their safety, privacy & dignity as well. But you keep on believing that only trans children are vulnerable & deserving of consideration.
Surely parents are made aware of the policy when they join GG, so they will have made that choice already. Again, with the selective “understanding" of what Agnes and other leaders have been saying. There has been no communication with parents, no revised terms provided to parents confirming the policy change from single sex to mixed, no information provided that makes this expressly clear to parents and a deliberate policy of silencing leaders who are questioning the wisdom of not informing parents of the change, not providing this information on planned overnight trips, to allow informed consent to mixed sex sleeping/showering facilities etc. But you keep on with that faux innocence as to what all the fuss is about.
As a parent I would trust the group to identify concerning behaviour of any nature and deal with it accordingly You cannot simply expect leaders to identify and deal with concerning behaviour on a whim - they need to have fully assessed risks & safeguarding prior to overnight trips as part of risk assessments in the planning stages. Which would be fine if GG hadn’t confirmed that they are prevented from enacting safeguarding procedures, or carrying out risk assessments by claiming that the EHRC says they can’t do so when either a trans child or adult is involved in overnight stays. But you carry on with that trust of an organisation charged with your child’s wellbeing & safety, when they don’t even comply with standard safeguarding procedures.
On another note, would parents withdraw their daughters from school if a trans girl was in their class? And if so, would it be OK for parents to remove a child because another child had, for example, a disability or a physical attribute that made them distinctive? Or if there was a lesbian in the group? This wilful stupidity is really starting to wear thin, but you keep on going with the idea that any of those categories of people have the potential to harm female children at the same rates as biologically male people. Female children are vulnerable to male pattern behaviour. Trans identity does not act as a magic wand to erase male patten behaviour that is harmful to female children.
Really? I would be fine with that, and would just pack some sturdy pyjamas to save anyone from seeing anything they don't need to. It's a public hall, with several people sleeping in it. What do you think might happen? Are you for fucking real? If anything else you have stated gave some doubt as to your “identity” I think this part really flags up who you really are. We see you.
Business trips are different - you are not on the trip to take care of children or volunteering. I think you are underestimating GGs ability to select suitable leaders. there is a vetting system in place, with DBS, personal references etc, and someone unknown to the group is unlikely to be going on a trip.. Again with the complete ignorance of how guides works, even after Agnes has explained that very circumstance in her example. It’s not just wilful ignorance here, it’s deliberate misrepresentation of Agnes’ comments and experience.
If TRAs are going to try and challenge what Agnes and others are saying, at least try and address the concerns raised, instead of this lazy and spiteful attempt to ridicule both Agnes and other leaders, and parents posting their concerns. Why not address the ‘keeping secrets’ aspect of this policy, so completely at odds with safeguarding procedures? Why not address the rights of girls to their privacy, dignity & safety? Explain why girls aren’t entitled to this when you are so certain that trans should have their needs and rights considered? Why not address why GG are keeping this policy so buried, and not flagging this up to anyone? Explain how these things are OK in your views. Don’t just bullshit people here.