The vast majority of male born transwomen still retain a penis

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fairplayforwomen.com/penis/

Stats for arguing with waiverers.

Datun, I've posted two examples counter to the narrative you believe in - and a government ran phone survey which also counters your narrative.

Nope. You're trying to pretend that women are just as dangerous as men both sexually and violently.

Here, in the UK, there are 120 women in prison for sex offences and 14,000 men. There are 120 transwomen in prison, almost half are there for sex offences. There are no transmen in any prison.

Of the 5000 women in prison, overall, 60% of them have been sexually assaulted or raped.

There are two bodies a week of women, killed by men.

Amnesty and the UN both promote single sex segregation, because otherwise crimes against women go up.

You think if you shout loud enough that we are making this up and we are just as much a threat, you'll get somewhere.

You won't. We're not.

You have to remember, we are also talking from direct experience. There are 12 million women on mumsnet.

We talk.

As do you. And you telling us our boundaries are not legitimate means you are the problem.

MaryZ I didnt derail the pie thread either. Someone suggested blockers would be good for paedophiles and I explained why they weren't and used the word cis to refer to non-trans kids and got my head bitten off for it... because apparently self ID matters... as long as you're not trans and want people to respect that you're a woman i guess - judging by the amount of times i've been called a man on this board already!

Equally appalling would be suggesting feminists think it's ok for female teachers to coerce children into sex.

I do hope no-one is suggesting that

Sorry. Not sorry.

Interestingly enough everyone I've ever seen suggest that those situations are OK has been a man.

I don't think you have a legitimate boundary =

I know what you are all saying, I realise how you feel, I know what you think but fuck you, I don't care about you, I don't care about your safety, I only care about myself and my rights and what I want and me, me, ME, ME, MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Think I'll just keep this handy every time these threads appear and the same bullshit is spewed all over posts of women saying NO and being ignored anyway.

What the fuck is this latest fuckwittery? Women rape at the same rate as men? In your fucking porn addled sick fantasy head they do.

And if they are are a dangerous as men, why then are you so keen to use the women only sex segregated spaces ?

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I don't think you have a legitimate boundary

I mean, at least this one is being honest, right?

Still here Your? Do you know there's a Flouncer's Corner for posters who can't tear themselves away.

Anyway we've gone round this circuit at last three times now. Poster after poster has explained why they don't want males in sex segregated spaces. CuriousaboutSamphire's post on Sun 22-Jul-18 16:52:37 really resonated with me but there are plenty of others. Each time you dismiss and belittle them. (Here's a tip: if you want women on here to take you seriously, don't describe their fears as 'silly'. You're welcome.)

What is really curious is that, in my experience, women don't need it explaining like this. In fact every woman I have ever spoken to understands it intuitively. We have to - it's woven into our daily lives. And yet here you are, over and over and over.

bumbungo

I posted data.

I use women's facilities because I'm a woman - women rape women less.

Tension
Feel free too. It's a quote which is entirely out of context and literally cuts out half of the sentence to make me look bad.

It's a smear. Use that tactic if you want, I'll just direct people to the original post and expose your lies. :)

Thatjourno, I'd imagine that's why FairPlay used the statistic that 20% of transgender people are expected to seek medical treatment, rather than using the statistic that only 5% currently have sought treatment.

What makes you a woman?

What is the definition of woman that includes you, and me, but excludes men?

Without using words like "feel" or being circular?

your

Ive missed where people called you a man

Report the posts and they will be deleted

So glad my leisure centre has named the facilities ‘Male and ‘Female’.

Floisme

Sure am! I said I was going because I thought my bus would get to it stop on time, but I got on the wrong one and had to change over. So I've got a little time to kill still.

ah right, so now my womanhood is contingent on me automatically agreeing with whatever it is you say? Doesn't sound particularly feminist to me, but what do I know... i'm a male right?

Rufustheyawningreindeer
Yes arousal can happen in those circumstances, but also i would assume that some of those cases may be women in positions of 'power'

Thanks for a non-judgemental response to my question about arousal. It had occurred to me that fear might be arousing for some men, but I didn't feel I understood well enough to say whether or not it could happen. I can also see how that might happen with a powerful woman coercing a younger man into sex.

Not impressed by the the not so friendly trans calling my question a 'disgusting comment'.

Right, so you do believe men are as sexually intimidated by women as women are of men. Right. You're fucking deluded.

I don't want to be alone with men who I do not know or trust. That includes you. You may be perfectly safe, but having been sexually threatened and intimidated by men from around the age of 12 I believe me and my daughter deserve female only spaces.

If can look at the masses of reports of sexual violence towards women by men and think "hmm it must be that men just aren't speaking up about all the sexually violent women", then you'll have to forgive people for misgendering you when you sound so much like a man.

I just find it strange Your that women's fears are so hard for you to understand. Bon voyage.

YourFriendlyNeighbourhoodTrans
I didn't see your apology before my last post.

You posted one article citing a survey of dubious provenance, methods and terminology.

You are also not a woman. Terminology is an issue for you clearly.

You are not welcome in women's sex segregated spaces. We say No. Learn that words have meaning, not any old shit that's going in your head.

It ain't feminists or mothers on this site who are trying to remove safeguards that protect children, yourfriendly.

I agree old

Its a completely different thing and if my dh doesnt fancy it or he is tired or drunk then nothing hapoens

But i think quite often its just an involuntary reaction

And we all know there are levels of fear so you can be afraid and still function...or not!

Well yes. I suppose your has the benefit of being honest.

Apart from the pretence that women are just as much of a threat as men, but for some unknown reason in their case it's men who are a threat, not women.

Except when you point that out it's not about being a threat, it's about validation.

Except when you point that out, it's not about validation, because why would they need to be validated as they are just like us.

And the narrative that says I'm a woman, I'm a woman, so shut up, goes nowhere.

Except into the ears of 12 million women...

Keep it coming.

Considerate of Your to do our work for us, no?