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Womans Place UK Facebook/Twitter attack & request to share statement on social media.

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R0wantrees · 20/07/2018 10:50

Social Media Attacks on WPUK
womansplaceuk.org/social-media-attacks-on-wpuk/

"It is now clear somebody created a fake FB account using a photograph of a woman without her permission and made posts implying she was a ticketholder to our #WPUK event in Brighton. After the event they posted, as if from her, that she had spat at a protestor and thought it was funny. This post was screenshotted and posted on Twitter.

This was then used to attack Woman’s Place UK by impugning the attendees at Monday’s meeting and promote lies about us and our supporters. The account has been reported and removed but, as we know, a lie is often half way round the world before the truth has got its boots on.

These are not the first such social media attacks we have been subjected to. We have had a fake twitter account set up in imitation. Our meeting hashtag #WPUK is now routinely hijacked by people posting sexual innuendo. Our posts have been routinely, and dishonestly, reported, hidden and obstructed.

We are not interested in a petty social media battle with people who oppose our aims. We are a campaign established to ensure that women’s voices and women’s rights are upheld in any proposed changes to a law that affects them.

This morning, our supporters are reporting that FB posts which link to our website are being removed. The reason give is that ‘they may be in breach of community standards’. They are not in breach of community standards. We would urge you to visit our website, read the posts and decide for yourself.

We have five demands. If you agree with these demands we would ask you to stand with us now and share our various posts far and wide to expose the spiteful attempt to shut us down instead of engage with our substantive demands.

We refuse to be side tracked by the vindictiveness of such campaigns. We are interested in a resolution that upholds the rights of everyone. We are not afraid of debate. We welcome it.

We call on our detractors to cease these attacks and to engage with us in serious discussion.

We are asking you to share this statement on all your social media platforms with all your followers and friends."

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3292400-WPUK-Brighton-Meeting-Turning-the-Tide

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Ereshkigal · 20/07/2018 14:37

copied and pasted the post, explaining why I was sharing it. A woman (American) I've known online for more than 20 years just posted

Americans often think that everywhere else has a similar political landscape to them, not that she gets what's happening there either.

Lefthanddown · 20/07/2018 14:42

I've just had notification that the posts have been reinstated as ithey don't break community standards.
Surprised it was taken down in the first place given the programme I was half watching this week where FB were criticised for leaving up a film of a child being abused

dragongirlx · 20/07/2018 14:57

The links are back up - about time too

it is disturbing that these links were taken down when they do no harm, no matter what certain groups would have you believe, yet other things that do/ promote harm to women and children are left up

IJustHadToNameChange · 20/07/2018 16:47

All it takes is enough people pressing the Report buttons for the page to be restricted or a post deleted.

It's an automatic thing.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 20/07/2018 18:24

Dr Adrian Harrop has publicly apologised for his part in smearing two people who's ID's were stolen and used to make fake allegations against WPUK.

twitter.com/STILLTish/status/1020258020855615488

Just repeating OvaHere's post here. I wonder what the GMC would think of his conduct over this.

VaggieMight · 20/07/2018 19:43

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dragongirlx · 20/07/2018 19:55

Looks like they are at it again. Links are down and Facebook says they look like spam

Melanippe · 20/07/2018 20:10

Harrop was directed to the false account by a woman who posts on this board who still hasn't returned to apologise for her part in it, nor has she removed the tweets from her timeline. Harrop is now suggesting that GC feminists are bankrolling anti-choice groups, and have been behind bankrolling the legal teams encouraging families with small children who's lives cannot be saved to continue to take legal action against the NHS.

So, he's apologised for one chunk of defamation, whilst banging on about another.

Sarahconnor1 · 20/07/2018 20:15

Sorry it's harrop again. He thinks the backing for WPUK comes from those who were against repeal the 8th and were helping fund action against hospitals in the Charlie gard and Alfie evans cases.

Womans Place UK  Facebook/Twitter attack & request to share statement on social media.
Rufustheyawningreindeer · 20/07/2018 20:18

melan

Really?

That's awful

Im sure that should earn someone a suspension! Doubt it will

Sarahconnor1 · 20/07/2018 20:21

melan what a timely cross post.

rufus I suspect it's earned another compliant to the gmc.

Pratchet · 20/07/2018 20:22

Sarah Connor and @ruthserwotka: the defamation of the doula and the smears against wpuk are surely actionable.

dragongirlx · 20/07/2018 20:30

It isn't woman's place uk this time but another gender critical blog.

Melanippe · 20/07/2018 20:34

I am actually disgusted that a man with his reach is posting such egregious and obvious lies. I do wonder what he's getting out of it, because that TV doctor contract still doesn't seem to be forthcoming.

ChattyLion · 20/07/2018 20:35

Er right. This person thinks gender critical feminists are in league with litigious Christian groups? Hmm
Pull the other one. Those are the same anti-choice fuckers that we have had to argue against for the last 50 years to defend women’s abortion rights. That’s not even vaguely convincing as an accusation.

Sarahconnor1 · 20/07/2018 20:56

Pratchet

I think he may have breached GMC guidelines and NHS trusts social media policies but I don't think he cares much about an NHS career given his outbursts on Twitter recently.

I suspect on the slander point he would try to use 'honest opinion' as a defence, but I'd be willing to contribute to a crowdfunder to help someone bring action.

VaggieMight · 20/07/2018 21:00

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Sparctopus · 20/07/2018 23:06

He also wrote to Jury's Inn to have a go about the meeting and by the sound of it described WPUK as transphobic/hate group etc in that - he posted their reply (and his response to that) on Twitter but I don't think he shared his original letter (might be wrong though) - but it certainly sounds as though that was also likely to have been defamatory. I wonder if there's a way for them to find out the contents and if necessary, take action about that too?

R0wantrees · 21/07/2018 07:41

Telegraph article:
(extract)
"Facebook has been accused of censorship after links to the website of a feminist campaign group who are concerned about plans to allow transgender people to "self-identify" as women were blocked.

The social media giant temporarily prevented users from visiting and sharing Women’s Place UK’s website, saying it was for users’ “safety” as the site was “malicious”.

The links were restored within a few hours following complaints from several users.

Women’s Place UK was established in September 2017 shortly after the Government pledged to amend the Gender Recognition Act, allowing people to legally change their gender without medical authorisation.

The group say they want a “simple and reasonable” debate on the impact of the Act and that the Government “can’t bring in a change to the law that affects women’s rights without consulting women.”

Kiri Tunks, co-founder of Women’s Place UK, said: “It is tedious and it just wears you down. I don’t think anyone thinks that Facebook are going to ban us long term because we are clearly not a malicious hate group, but that constant battering is meant to make us give up and go away - but that’s not going to happen." (continues)

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/07/21/facebook-accused-censoring-feminist-campaign-website-concerned/

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3312890-Telegraph-article-Facebook-accused-of-censorship-WPUk

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R0wantrees · 21/07/2018 07:44

Sorry it's harrop again. He thinks the backing for WPUK comes from those who were against repeal the 8th and were helping fund action against hospitals in the Charlie gard and Alfie evans cases.

threads:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3244781-dr-adrian-harrop-who-the-funk-does-he-think-he-is

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3248676-dr-adrian-harrop-dr-misogyny-is-pursuing-another-woman

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Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/07/2018 07:54

Harrop said on Twitter yesterday that he isn't currently doing any private work, all NHS. Don't know what sort of work - locum GP?

I genuinely feel concerned that a qualified medical doctor can post as he does on Twitter. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and assume that his support for transgender ideology is an extension of his support for gay rights, and he is a gay man. But how can he not see, with all those years of scientific training behind him, that biological sex matters? How can he not see that telling lesbians and gay men that it is transexclusionary and transphobic to restrict their dating pool to people of one bio sex is homophobic? The whole basis of homosexuality is biological sex!

His attitude to women is my main issue, though. He is patronising, belittling, arrogant. None of these are attributes I want to see in a doctor or any other HCP.

Pratchet · 21/07/2018 08:29

Rox Kaverney had to apologise. This new tactic of trying to hardlink wpuk to anti-abortion campaigners is not going so well for them.

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Pratchet · 21/07/2018 08:38

That's from Feb: and they are still trying.

ChattyLion · 21/07/2018 09:09

Fucking hell Pratchet I am not on Twitter. I had no idea this was a thing to try to (falsely) link gender critical thinking with Christian-based anti choice on abortion ideology.
Guess I missed that memo in all these years I have been noticing the crock of shit that is ‘gender’ while volunteering for and donating to pro choice causes and demonstrating against religious intolerance on abortion. Hmm

I have noticed that the rigid gender stereotyping and outright misogyny that underpins the anti-choice on abortion position, IS strongly reflected in the TRA position though. Where the ‘girly’ have to be girls and the ‘boy-y’ have to be boys. Where if you deviate from that rigid stereotype there’s something wrong with you that needs to be ‘fixed’. Fuck that shit.

MPPairUp · 21/07/2018 09:18

Communists have a history of finding the philosophical monotheism religion beliefs a threat to their communist philosophical belief, just as trans ideology is seen as some as a philosophical belief.

Believe what they believe only, authoritarian behaviour!

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