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David Starkey, 73, moans his broadcasting career has been ruined by 'old, ugly women'

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hungryhippie · 17/07/2018 08:00

www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5960893/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-David-Starkey-73-moans-career-ruined-old-ugly-women.html

"Outspoken historian David Starkey — one of television's most prolific Tudor experts — claims that his broadcasting career has been ruined by the popularity of his female rivals."

Maybe they are just better than you David?
What an arsehole

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StealthPolarBear · 17/07/2018 08:03

Yes because older women have always had it easier in broadcasting and the media. It's a well known fact that the older a woman gets the more sought after she is. No one wants these young skinny types any more.

HotRocker · 17/07/2018 08:05

Not in the least bit surprised. He’s always been a nasty little twerp.

hungryhippie · 17/07/2018 08:06

Exactly Stealth
He is talking bollocks and is obviously just jealous of the fabulous Mary Beard.

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Bingpot · 17/07/2018 08:06

So would it have been ok if it had been ruined by young, attractive girls instead?!

PlatypusPie · 17/07/2018 08:08

And the irony of his comment will not strike him when he looks in the mirrror.

madcatladyforever · 17/07/2018 08:08

And he's an oil painting of course. Silly old fart.

PamsterWheel · 17/07/2018 08:10

But he IS ugly. Childishness aside, what an abhorrent thing to say. Shame on him.

madcatladyforever · 17/07/2018 08:10

He thinks he's better looking that Mary Beard - get a mirror love hahaha.

Timefortea99 · 17/07/2018 08:10

He is ugly in every way. Not sure why he thinks he isn’t. Odious man.

Thymelord · 17/07/2018 08:11

Always thought he was a nasty little misogynist. Odious man.

Thymelord · 17/07/2018 08:12

Grin Sorry TimeforTea, your odious beat my odious.

bellinisurge · 17/07/2018 08:12

He's always been an arsehole. It's just that programme commissioner realise that we don't need slightly camp patrician historians for EVERY history programme.

AngryAttackKittens · 17/07/2018 08:15

"David Starkey, 73, who has no self-awareness and does not own a mirror..."

ReluctantCamper · 17/07/2018 08:32

white middle class man when in the ascendancy: we live in a meritocracy, if women aren't rising to the top it's because they're not the cream

white middle class man when not automatically gravitating to the top of the pile: it's political correctness gone mad. I'm being discriminated against!

see also: Jeremy Paxman

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 17/07/2018 08:33

Hmmm, I think some of his well publicised outrageous comments on race and women might have done that!

Stanley's other issue as a historian is that while he knows a great deal about Tudor court politics, he never really went far beyond the big boy at the top (certainly not too the boring peasants) and he sees every other period through that lens. He is unashamedly elitist and while the rudeness may have once been a bit of an act, he is contemptuous dismissive of anyone who formulates alternative theories.

He's probably just saying it for publicity in any case!

NewModelArmyMayhem18 · 17/07/2018 08:33

As my mother would say "pot calling kettle black"!!!

SophoclesTheFox · 17/07/2018 08:33

I think he's done a pretty good job of ruining his own TV career by being a pompous insufferable sexist twerp. That'd do it.

Judashascomeintosomemoney · 17/07/2018 08:37

So would it have been ok if it had been ruined by young, attractive girls instead?!
No, silly, cos they would only be on tv cos they looked nice. Tsk.
Anyway, I thought his broadcasting career was ruined because he was a nasty, bitter, racist and misogynist, clearly I was wrong. Those 100+ fellow historians who signed a letter stating he was a disgrace to the profession must all have been ugly, old women I guess. Wink

WeirdScenesInsideTheGoldmine · 17/07/2018 08:38

He’s slwaus been a nasty little bastard.

I worked with him and hated it, has a well deserved horrible reputation in academia

ThatWasTheWeekThatWas · 17/07/2018 08:40

Poor lamb.

It's interesting though, isn't it, that there's a certain type of person who immediately looks to blame others when things aren't going the way they'd like. You notice he isn't saying to himself, "What could I do to boost my career and get the jobs I want?" Instead it's like, "Everyone else is wrong! I want everybody else to change!"

Alicethroughtheblackmirror · 17/07/2018 09:39

Incidentally, this reminded me of Starkey's biography of Elizabeth. Nothing against (most) of the book (although it's been an age since I read it), it's an easily readable account of her formative years. There is nothing wrong, either, in limiting the scope of your book. What rankled was in the introduction where he set out his rationale for concentrating on the years before her accession. Historians, he says, often fall in love with Elizabeth but he dismisses the "bewigged and beruffled Gloriana... with her face caked in carmine and white lead... This Elizabeth interests me but rather repels me"

So, the apogee of one of the most successful women of her age or any other dismissed because Starkey thinks she got old and ugly and therefore "repels" (worth repeating!) him. Had he just written that he was curious as to the influences and experiences that informed the monarch, then fair enough. But he had to make it about how personally unattractive she became.

The rest of the introduction annoyed me too, featuring as it does plenty of typical boasts about how original he's been and how much cleverer he is than his readers (including the ludicrous suggestion that readers will see the very famous portrait of the 13 year old for the first time on his book cover).

Oh dear, now I better calm down for a bit!

Grandmaswagsbag · 17/07/2018 09:47

Starkey is my guilty pleasure. I love the fact he’s incredibly, hilariously rude. And I do think he’s a good historian and always enjoyed his programmes. Although I can believe he said it but I’m not sure I’d trust Sebastian Shakespeare’s reporting on what someone said to him at a party.

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 17/07/2018 09:51

I wonder where Lucy Worsley fits into his world view, given she's hardly old or ugly but is all over the TV (hurrah!) and is hardly his number one fan.

VulvaofSteel · 17/07/2018 09:53

You mean this sexy young man?

David Starkey, 73, moans his broadcasting career has been ruined by 'old, ugly women'
Hangingaroundtheportal · 17/07/2018 09:58

From the article:

It's a stark change from 2010, when he branded the works of his female rivals — such as Amanda Foreman, who once posed naked holding copies of her book Georgiana, Duchess Of Devonshire — as 'historical Mills & Boon'.

He also complained that female historians are 'usually quite pretty' and keen to show off their good looks on their book covers.

So he doesn't like female historians being pretty and sexy, and he doesn't like them being old and ugly? So he basically doesn't like females in his domain?