Look what happened when Alison Moyet refused to be called a cis woman **title amended at request of OP**

[LaSqrrl]

"You can identify as anything you want these days, except as a woman. Consider what happened to British singer Alison Moyet. Last week, on Twitter, she said she didn’t want to be known as a cs-woman, just as a woman. ‘I defend everyone’s right to have the pronoun that they choose and will honour it’, she diplomatically said. And ‘I do not choose Cs for mine’, she continued. ‘It took women like me long enough to own the title “woman” in the first place. It’s a long enough word for me.’ The response to this calm, clear, polite act of self-definition? Fury. And insult. And abuse. On such a voluble level that Moyet eventually recanted her linguistic heresy, deleted her tweet, and left Twitter."
Read rest of the article here.

Moyet's response to being 'forcibly assigned' the c*s label was quite polite and restrained (far more so than I can ever muster). Yet she was relentlessly told by the twitterverse to 'stfu woman' with a pile of 'hate tweets' - that she should accept it, like it or not.

Moyet has several follow up tweets, including this one where she says:
"I will name you as you identify. Must you afford me less?"

Apparently the answer is "no". And more reasons to stfu and accept it.

'Woman' is not terra nullius, we are 52%. We will not be hoodwinked into giving up our names, only for males to claim them (that is what the c-prefix is all about). Our answer is "no" and is not the start of a 'negotiation'.

[InionEile]

The 'cis' thing is supposed to refer to anyone who identifies as the gender that they were 'assigned at birth' (to use the lamentable terminology the transactivists use), yet does anyone else notice that they hardly ever hear the word 'cis-man'? It's almost entirely women who are being bullied into terming ourselves 'cis-women'. Also, the harshest most shrill hatred is always directed at women and comes from transwomen and their allies. Transmen keep a remarkably low profile by comparison.

This basic reality of transactivism today is what alerted me to the awareness that, as O'Neill says in the article above, transactivism is nothing more than misogyny in drag.

I love Graham Linehan for the stand he is taking these days on trans issues. The level of bullying and hatred and even just plain old virtue signaling fired his way has been phenomenal but he is standing firm. I wish there were more sensible, brave public figures like himself and Alison Moyet.

[thebewilderness]

I told you yesterday or the day before that the terms you were using were banned and so did a few others. I and even went so far as to quote you the passage in the guidelines. You responded with a biscuit.
I simply returned the compliment when I read the lie you posted on this thread.
When people come over here from AIBU we usually try to help them get used to the different rules here. Several people have tried to help you, only to be dismissed or laughed off. Obviously you are feeling picked on so I will not trouble you further.

[thebewilderness]

Already don, thanks.

[LaSquirrel]

Doesn't know the rules, knows the rules, doesn't need to know the rules, knows the rules.
OK then!

You sound rather young and arrogant GG. Just saying.

[TweetleBeetlesBattle]

Thanks for highlighting the article. I'm horrified there seems no way to stop this nonsense. I too am a woman, and see no reason to be redefined.

[Baroquehavoc]

GardenGeek. Why are you trying to derail a thread about women, particularly Alison moyet, being forced to call themselves cis, and make it all about you?

[Baroquehavoc]

The only time I see men embrace 'cis' is when they used it as a way of telling women they are wrong.

As in, 'as a white straight cis man, I'm total supportive of tranwomen using women's bathrooms'

I've never seen it used as an example of how they have more advantages than transmen, women or other males.

[Rufustheyawningreindeer]

garden

and I dont need to get used to your 'rules' either

They arent FWR rules, they are MNHQ

But obviously its completely up to you what you post

[LangCleg]

Where's Littlebrowndog when you need her?

Short and sweet. That's how I like it.

[Rufustheyawningreindeer]

No problem garden

because I was never saying anything vexatious or offensive in the first place

Same here...though I haven't checked my emails today so i could have that wrong

[ScrubTheDecks]

Deathgrip Spiked Online and Brendan O'Neill will not be found to be the friend of the feminist, and O'Neill's article will be part of Spiked's position against Identity Politics rather than in favour of feminism.

But that does not undermine the points made in the article in question.

[Lottie35]

We're now called 'Cis' (ridiculous) but can't call a guy a 'trans'. I don;t get it?!

[thebewilderness]

[TheBiologicalWoman]

And...they're off again but Alison's taking no prisoners

mobile.twitter.com/Glinner/status/1018894059430129664

[boatyardblues]

I am so glad Alison is back, not cowed by the Twitter bullies. Go Alison! ❤️

[LaSquirrel]

I think those who showed AM support on Twitter (links to supportive places) helped her. That she was not "being unreasonable" and her position is an entirely reasonable one.

I did do a couple of supportive tweets. It is important when someone is under attack like that.

[Beamur]

So, Graham should tackle the bigger issues, like Russia, etc...coz that's more important

[Bowlofbabelfish]

So, Graham should tackle the bigger issues, like Russia, etc...coz that's more important hmm

Oh that’s a classic silencing technique. You can’t talk about issue x because people in x country have it so much worse/there’s a war on in x/starving children in x/ what about the men?

It’s best responded to by asking the person to rank the world’s woes in order and start from the top...

It’s basically ‘shut up, I dont want to hear you talk about this.’

Go Alison! Do not let them silence you. You are a WOMAN. Not an isomer, not a genetic promoter in close proximity to the gene it acts upon. A woman.