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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Alison Moyet - yay (I think)

100 replies

pearlkent · 05/07/2018 16:46

She seems to be being attacked on Twitter for rejecting 'cis':

twitter.com/AlisonMoyet

Link probably won't work. I'm not on Twitter so not sure how to do the links.

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Melamin · 05/07/2018 21:38

Love Alison Moyet.

I think she is still on that uphill journey from trying to accept people as they are to you can't argue with idiots.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 05/07/2018 21:39

To be a transgender advocate is not to become a mouth piece.

Ah. Yes, you'd hope so wouldn't you?

Think she reached the Hillary Step...

gendercritter · 05/07/2018 21:40

Oh fuck, I used the wrong < there, didn't I?

That gave me a little chuckle. Grin Passes over the Gin

nauticant · 05/07/2018 21:42

Having looked at the grief Alison Moyet is getting on twitter for not being obedient, I'm quietly optimistic about this experience shifting her perspective.

I'll take on board your comments vaginafetishist and wait to see what happens when Shappi starts asking herself questions.

GenderApostate · 05/07/2018 21:52

It didn’t change her POV last year when there was a pile on directed at her for saying only Women have wombs. How she squares that with TWAW I really don’t know.

Waddlelikeapenguin · 05/07/2018 22:04

GenderApostate but that's it isnt it? 99% of the people that say TWAW dont actually believe it i fucking hope but they still say it Confused

Melamin · 05/07/2018 22:04

Who knew you could get into so much trouble for hating flies Hmm

AncientLights · 05/07/2018 22:17

Just listening to AM's 'Invisible' as I read this: "invisible ... I feel like I'm invisible. You treat me like I'm not really there ..." Just how I feel with all this shit. How apt.

SpareRibFem · 05/07/2018 22:50

I can't bring myself to read the Alison Moyet thread, this public bullying of prominent women by non entity males is distressing Sad Angry

bd67th · 05/07/2018 23:13

I've been saying for ages that less-educated people will be harmed more than most by the genderist language, and here we have a case study: mobile.twitter.com/AlisonMoyet/status/1014924847716159488

Waddlelikeapenguin · 05/07/2018 23:17

bd67th i read that with my mouth like Shock how could that person AM was replying to be so unbelievably rude?! (I dont do twitter much & i know much of it is very... robust but that still read as just so mean!)

boldlygoingsomewhere · 06/07/2018 07:12

Alison is a legend - she was such an inspiration when I was younger.

Reading some of the bile directed at her is awful.

Magpiesarehuge · 06/07/2018 07:31

She had similar happen about a year ago over something she said. She was getting all muddled up in her trans speak and sounded a bit clueless. It was funny - she sounded a bit dim.

CertainHalfDesertedStreets · 06/07/2018 07:39

She's really clearly not 'dim' Hmm

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 06/07/2018 08:01

she sounded a bit dim

Compared to the two fuckwits talking to her on the twitter thread linked about she sounds like a genius

That other twitter thread must have been something to see! Link?

SpareRibFem · 06/07/2018 09:12

I found Alison's tweets in the early hours of this morning where she's clearly upset quite distressing.

She obviously has a lot of talent and is also a very decent person. She has done a lot for the LGBT community but the T part of that doesn't care when they spot an opportunity to bully a woman. I suspect Rarest of birds may be the last LGBT song she writes and LGB are the groups that lose out.

Anlaf · 06/07/2018 09:15

It looks like she has been forced to recant

^Ok. people. You win. I get that I’m reprehensible for not liking a word. I understand this now means I don’t get to sit with you all at lunch and yes, I am a wanker because I can’t do grammar.
Thank you for showing me a better way.
I delete.^

Anlaf · 06/07/2018 09:16

Oh bugger formatting. Tweet here:

twitter.com/AlisonMoyet/status/1015037275258998784?s=19

Anlaf · 06/07/2018 09:18

I didn’t say I was not cis, I said I didn’t want it to describe me and my reasons for it.This has been met with an almighty flaming the likes I have not even seen in my debates with American evangelical pro-lifers.
I was not aware there was no discussion to be had here. My bad.

twitter.com/AlisonMoyet/status/1015139239380635648?s=19

You can't argue with #nodebate

Helmetbymidnight · 06/07/2018 09:19

I don’t think she’s been converted - au contraire - Grin

But what a shitstorm for someone like her - who has been involved with gay rights all her working life - to be put through. Horrible.

Noqont · 06/07/2018 09:23

Ah, she's currently on the uphill bit that is steeper than you realised that comes before reaching the peak... Keep going Allison, I'll have the kettle on for when you reach the top

❤️

AsAProfessionalFekko · 06/07/2018 09:31

'...LGBTQIA Community...' Every time I look there's a new letter added... I can't keep up.

SpareRibFem · 06/07/2018 09:32

I just want to give her a hug and say 'It's not you it's them' Sad

I hope she reaches the peak soon, stops apologising and tells the activists to FO

TheCountessofFitzdotterel · 06/07/2018 09:41

It's a pretty furious apology though, isn't it? Hardly contrite.

Oblomov18 · 06/07/2018 10:02

She re-canted?