Ministers commit to preserving sex-based exemptions

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Open access link: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ministers-put-curbs-on-trans-rights-7zx2cbh2j?shareToken=71ea2e364a4682a6395af2056695238d

If you can't win them over with facts then baffle them with bullshit, basically.

We try to see the world as binary male and female. Mostly it works well but sex is more complex than that.

Hahahahahahahahah hahahahaha

So when you were conceived snappity how many sexes were involved?

Were you cloned from one parent?

Was there a strange act involving a third person?

Maybe there was a combination of human gametes and some other species fusing to make you?

Was there something different from the conception of every other human who has ever lived created from the binary of male and female gametes uniting.?

Or are you just making utter shit up?

What Lang eloquently said

This board makes me laugh. The women here are so articulate and can swear like navvies - love it!

We try to see cats and dogs as being separate species, but both generally have 4 paws and a tail so it's more complex than that.

We try to see the world as binary male and female. Mostly it works well but sex is more complex than that

How bizarre. Of all the ways to classify people, doing so by sex is definitely one of the most straight forward. 1 of 2 options.

Sex:

Male
Female

End!

That Times article really has rattled cages, hasn't it?

It is like some sort of bizarre word salad on here.

Sex is absolute. No. Wait. Spectrum. Hawaii. Cheese. Elitism. Radiator.

At least Leon was funny. I laughed at how he reported the social media hounders of his two transgender children to "50 on his burner phone". Or was it his private detectives who involved the cops? Can't remember now.

Argentina is in South America. But what of The Maldives or The Seychelles. Nowhere near as easy - Asia and Africa as it happens even though in holiday brochures they seem very similar.

I recommend a world atlas and/or an encyclopedia.

I think what we should take away from this is that sex is Hawaii, and also elitist.

Sex is absolute. No. Wait. Spectrum. Hawaii. Cheese. Elitism. Radiator.

Sex is not binary, because light switches and cushions, chairs, broccoli and petrol stations, hairbrushes maybe, but carpets? Maybe dogs. Not sand. Crisps.

There are 10 types of sex. (That's binary.)

@AngryAttackKittens Are you saying I’m supposed to be PAID for all this?! Flipping heck, I need to write some angry letters... Might not have the £ for stamps though as I’m spending an absolute fortune on train fares and buying entry to places that kick me straight out again... Angry emails it shall have to be! Thanks for the tip-off!

I dispute there are only 10 types of sex. My hubby and I found many other ways.

Moving away from the EA and protection of women's spaces, I found this interesting in the times article:

Mordaunt has signalled she is not yet persuaded that people should be allowed to select their gender without requiring a formal medical diagnosis of “gender dysphoria

There has been a few folk saying how ridiculous it is having a story about laws not changing, but I find it interesting that it sounds as if Mordaunt is cautious about changing the GRA to allow self-ID...

Hopefully this might be the beginning of a row back on the desirability of self-ID? Hopefully the beginning of people realising potential negative impacts? Perhaps even looking at the GRA and EA and strengthening protection for women? Or am I being overly optimistic

Gosh!

Wait, if sex is Hawaii then where do incels live?

Snappity, word to the wise. Don't tell women on a parenting site that sex is Hawaii, spectrum, whatevs. Plays havoc with our pelvic floors.

Wait, if sex is Hawaii then where do incels live?

Miles away from me I hope!

(I suddenly realise I got my fucking thread fucking mixed up just up there a bit. Fucking sorry. Can I do more fucking posts? I like saying fucking, what with being a mature matron time and fucking all.)

The pelvic floor is a social construct, obviously, and also a spectrum. Possibly a packet of crisps.

I think people should be totally free to select their 'gender' ...aren't there 70+ options on some websites? It's sex that matters. You can't self-ID into a different sex, and it's sex based separate provisions which need defending.

For goodness sakes The Times should be more accurate in its terminology and not conflate the two.

LangCleg & AngryAttackKittens My pelvic floor just fell off due to laughing at you two.