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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Male who IDs as female calls police after being denied entry to female toilets

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Lifesavingorange · 23/06/2018 20:08

mobile.twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1010586785079013382

Reading the fawning responses you’d think this person had been assaulted or worse.

And not a thought for the women in the toilets who might have felt uncomfortable. There never is.

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NaturalBornWoman · 24/06/2018 00:43

Um. Google is a thing and your surname hasn't changed.

Yup. They think we're stupid. Wrong.

spontaneousgiventime · 24/06/2018 00:44

Yup. They think we're stupid. Wrong.

You mean us, as wimminz are not? Wink

Lifesavingorange · 24/06/2018 01:11

As predicted ..,,

mobile.twitter.com/CubaLibreDC/status/1010652489409007618

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spontaneousgiventime · 24/06/2018 01:14

Total capitulation. What a bunch of cowards.

Lifesavingorange · 24/06/2018 01:15

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placemats · 24/06/2018 01:33

This is the person in question.

www.feministcurrent.com/2018/01/19/whats-current-exiled-male-feminist-charles-clymer-declares-woman/

Some the comments on clymer are hilarious! But what is clear from the links is that his person has serious anger issues.

The other what's current news makes for excellent reading too.

Interesting to learn that press secretary Sanders was asked to leave a restaurant. Clymer would support this move.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/06/23/why-a-small-town-restaurant-owner-asked-sarah-huckabee-sanders-to-leave-and-would-do-it-again/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.ad0eb1f4c12e

placemats · 24/06/2018 01:34

This person opps!

thebewilderness · 24/06/2018 02:00

More and more the businesses are treating transgenders like they used to treat gangsters.

tobee · 24/06/2018 02:24

thebewilderness yes!

Lifesavingorange · 24/06/2018 06:31

What a surprise - this person is taking up a space for a woman on a forthcoming panel.

Being trans really does give you royalty/gangster status, doesn’t it? Even the nastiest misogynists just need to say they’re women and people are tripping over themselves to give them jobs as models, spokespeople, writers....

mobile.twitter.com/IGNITE_National/status/1009847235738079232

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Lifesavingorange · 24/06/2018 06:32

The DC Mayor’s grovelling apology. Glad to see she is being called out.

mobile.twitter.com/MayorBowser/status/1010610660152135680

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Reddwolff · 24/06/2018 06:35

The problem is the bar probably already has had considerable problems with this with the female toilet. They may have found certain types of person tend not to shut the door of the cubicle but walk in and use a toilet as they would a urinal. I've also heard of some situations of spending prolonged time in the toilet, and while it may not be illegal loitering and looks make other users uncomfortable due to it being invasive. Then of course, they'd also get a few triers who have had a fair bit to drink and think it funny to barge in. Obviously this doesn't happen all the time, but often enough that it needs to be policed for the comfort of all patrons.

Therefore they've developed a policy that if you have the correct ID you will be allowed in, but no if you don't or refuse to show it. I am not at all sure this is being represented correctly, I've usually found bouncers to be extremely polite and they do try and not escalate. It's possible a bit of weight was being thrown around, while technically the law allows for a free-for-all in the context of a bar they probably were correct to institute some screening even if this objected and escalated to the point where both parties were going to call the police.

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AngryAttackKittens · 24/06/2018 08:12

When laws are bad you try to get them changed. You don't just shrug and go "oh well, it's the law, nothing to be done about it".

Or at least I don't.

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Lifesavingorange · 24/06/2018 08:22

No apology will be enough for the trans mob in any case. The venue’s phone number is already being circulated and they are baying for blood. Bunch of vile bullies. They will happily see poorly paid workers losing their jobs for the crime of telling the truth.

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AngryAttackKittens · 24/06/2018 08:34

People are also going to keep pointing out that the law is an ass and so is the consistently unpleasant person invoking it in this case, no matter how much some might prefer that we stop doing so.

Amalfimamma · 24/06/2018 08:47

Didn't they come out just about a year ago? Ex military or something? Very aggressive on Twitter so I imagine more so in real life and quite prone to exaggerating with the truth.

raining I hope your son is ok

Lifesavingorange · 24/06/2018 09:08

Sorry, yes raining I really hope your son is OK too x

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Snapespeare · 24/06/2018 11:18

Found time mid-twitter-frenzy to mention how beautiful she appears to be. Narc.

Male who IDs as female calls police after being denied entry to female toilets
SoddingUnicorns · 24/06/2018 11:36

@Snapespeare I’m sure that’s because in their opinion women are valued on looks alone and that ridiculous ego massage defines being a woman.

Lifesavingorange · 24/06/2018 11:36

I think the Cirque de Soleil dancer might have been high.

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placemats · 24/06/2018 12:31

Clymer reminds me of Trump when it comes to tweets.

WeeBisom · 24/06/2018 14:32

Oh my god, of course it’s CLYMER. It’s already been mentioned, but this individual’s background is so relevant to this. Clymer used to run one of the largest feminist groups online, and they ruled it with an iron fist. Clymer literally said in an interview that their primary ambition was to become a top feminist icon, and they had great plans back then to become the number one go to male feminist. This plan was actually going well for a time- They got TV interviews and an op ed column. But it all went to shit when it was revealed that Clymer for years had engaged in sexual harassment and extreme bullying of women involved in his feminist group. Clymer would pressure group admins for sex, then send relentless threatening messages when they declined. A bunch of women formed a hashtag “stop Clymer”, which still exists, and a picture began to build of a horribly controlling, anti feminist male who simply used feminist credentials as a way to get power and sex.

Clymer would also go into rages when women disagreed with him. Clymer once posted something like “periods are magical and beautiful”, and a bunch of women replied with “lol no they’re not.” Clymer banned them all from the group. Clymer had an absolutely huge hatred of women saying stuff like “well, you’re a man so you should defer to what the women are saying.” I guess women can’t use that line anymore.

Clymer was hounded out of fresh feminist community and lost all their media gigs, due to growing reports of abuse. This individual is now attempting a comeback.

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