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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Male who IDs as female calls police after being denied entry to female toilets

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Lifesavingorange · 23/06/2018 20:08

mobile.twitter.com/cmclymer/status/1010586785079013382

Reading the fawning responses you’d think this person had been assaulted or worse.

And not a thought for the women in the toilets who might have felt uncomfortable. There never is.

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massivelyouting · 23/06/2018 21:08

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53rdWay · 23/06/2018 21:08

Those unfamiliar with Clymer but familiar with Twitter might want to check out the #stopclymer hashtag for some of the highlights of Clymer getting called on bad behaviour four years ago.

massivelyouting · 23/06/2018 21:09

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Vicky1990 · 23/06/2018 21:10

I don't see what the problem is here, somebody wants to use the toilet. Why all the objections.

mancheeze · 23/06/2018 21:12

Clymer was once a raging feminist, if you can believe it.

Women understood the gaslighting and quickly kicked Clymer to the curb. Typical autogynephile.

53rdWay · 23/06/2018 21:17

Massively, try this link for an overview: www.salon.com/2014/12/02/fast_company_promotes_live_chat_with_creepy_male_feminist/

Or this one: www.thecut.com/2014/10/you-want-to-be-a-male-feminist-maybe-dont.html

Since I’m not sure what MN rules will and won’t allow, I’ll stick to quoting some of Clymer’s own words on Clymer’s own feminist Facebook page, pre-Clymer coming out as trans:

Stephanie, I'm going to let you in on a little secret that, apparently, no one has had the guts to tell you up to this point in your life: having a vagina does not grant you magical powers of perception and nuance anymore than my penis magically blinds me from the horrors of the world.

You have to earn respect for your opinion. I'm not going to hand it to you because you're a woman talking women's rights.

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 21:18

I don't see what the problem is here, somebody wants to use the toilet. Why all the objections.

Due to them being a person who presents opposite to their sex at birth and they wanted to use the facilities for the gender they present in not their birth sex? Maybe?

massivelyouting · 23/06/2018 21:19

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spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 21:20

massivelyouting Thank you, yes, I'm fully aware of that!

SoddingUnicorns · 23/06/2018 21:22

And they were denied their rights under law

Their rights and that bastard law erased other rights in the first place so forgive me for not giving a flying fuck.

Lifesavingorange · 23/06/2018 21:23

So interesting that Salon has no problem calling this man’s misogyny out, but as soon as he identifies as female he is untouchable.

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nNina22 · 23/06/2018 21:23

I am a biological female and am used to queuing for the loo. Are transmale happy to join the female loo queue?

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 21:23

Their rights and that bastard law erased other rights in the first place so forgive me for not giving a flying fuck.

I think this sums up my view - perfectly!

Massivelyouting · 23/06/2018 21:25

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Rufustheyawningreindeer · 23/06/2018 21:25

No massively

The poster said a certain individual here has a long and awful history as a supposed ‘male feminist’ to the point where even the third-wave libfem types hounded said person out

So unless you are a male feminist hounded out of a third wave libfem area I can't see how it referred to you

Massivelyouting · 23/06/2018 21:26

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spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 21:27

Then campaign for the laws to change.

Why? I don't live in DC. I'm campaigning to keep single sex not change it.

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 23/06/2018 21:27

It doesnt matter obviously

You're obviously a bit paranoid Smile

What you are saying isnt that 'outré' that everyone is out to get you

Rufustheyawningreindeer · 23/06/2018 21:28

Oh sorry cross post massively

Massivelyouting · 23/06/2018 21:30

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spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 21:33

well no one can be denied their legal rights. And that’s the law where she is.

No-one can stop me saying I disagree with people who identify as opposite to their birth sex using the facilities for the opposite sex to their birth sex.

Long winded I know but makes me a good girl re new guidelines.

Massivelyouting · 23/06/2018 21:35

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SoddingUnicorns · 23/06/2018 21:39

But you can’t deny someone their legal rights even if they are a pita

You seem to be deliberately ignoring the fact that this mob and their bullying tactics have denied many women their legal rights. Because their rights trump everyone else’s.

Because they shout loudest and threaten hardest.

spontaneousgiventime · 23/06/2018 21:40

Massivelyouting Disapprove? Would you like me to sit on the naughty step. I usually only do that after telling someone to fuck off.

thebewilderness · 23/06/2018 21:41

This person and their cohort consider intruding on women's sex segregated spaces to be an act of civil disobedience in an effort to get the laws changed so that women saying no is a hate crime.

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