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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

message to anti trans hate speakers

309 replies

ElliePhantW33 · 21/06/2018 03:19

I know it's hard to tell how mixed up you feel
Hoping what you need is behind every door
Each time you get hurt, I don't want you to change
Because everyone has hopes, you're human after all
The feeling sometimes, wishing you were someone else
Feeling as though you never belong
This feeling is not sadness, this feeling is not joy
I truly understand. Please, don't cry now

Please don't go, I want you to stay
I'm begging you please, please don't leave here
I don't want you to hate
For all the hurt that you feel
The world is just illusion, trying to change you

OP posts:
BeyondSceptical · 21/06/2018 22:11

Moloko is my ideal man 😍

BeyondSceptical · 21/06/2018 22:12

Also thanks to mip for finishing my song 😂

AngryAttackKittens · 21/06/2018 22:16

I really do miss the 90s. Remember when wearing makeup didn't mean we were meant to not only pretend a man was a woman but preemptively assume he "identified" as one just in case?

Being quite frank I've shagged enough of them to know that's not true.

pinkgirl1234 · 21/06/2018 22:18

Maybe smileys are transphobic now too, since everything else seems to be!

Ooh I hope "fannying about" isn't!

And I just called my (male) kitten a cunt - quite justifiably btw. I wonder if that is? Probably. Smile

pinkgirl1234 · 21/06/2018 22:19

Being quite frank I've shagged enough of them to know that's not true.

[envious smiley]

AngryAttackKittens · 21/06/2018 22:20

Maybe "arsehole" will eventually be the only insult allowed, since everyone has one of those.

(Waits for someone to come along "well actually some people are born without you inconsiderate bigot! I identify as 100% arsehole free!)

Sciencelogic · 21/06/2018 22:20

Pink
I've been dipping in and out of MN all day, generally larking about.
I should be at work. lol

Gretol · 21/06/2018 22:22

I reported this thread as spam last night and got an email today saying it had been deleted and the OP given their marching orders!

haXXor · 21/06/2018 22:24

That penis is a weapon of rape
Is a truth from which we can't escape.
Even females who say they're men
Are reminded every now and then[1]
That in their pants will always be
An unpatchable security vulnerability.

Your feelings of gender identity
Do not alter medical reality
Nor do they stop women's eyes
From seeing through your "feminine" disguise.
Decades of male socialisation
Are never erased by taking oestrogen.

We rightly fear the male who calls himself a woman
But does not respect the boundaries of women.

[1] "Normal life : administrative violence, critical trans politics, and the limits of law", p. x, by Dean Spade (2015) details a transman who asked for transfer to a female prison because, surprise surprise, being a vagina owner in a prison full of penis owners is bloody dangerous.

Sciencelogic · 21/06/2018 22:32

AAK
Self identifying as arsehole freeGrin

speakingwoman · 21/06/2018 22:34

@DancelikeEmmaGoldman

Rofl rofl can I steal that?

Kettlepotblackagain · 21/06/2018 22:35

well actually some people are born without you inconsiderate bigot! I identify as 100% arsehole free!

GrinGrinGrin

speakingwoman · 21/06/2018 22:36

@Battleax rofl Voronezh alliance

MipMipMip · 21/06/2018 22:36

Of course Skeptical, it had to be done. Grin

speakingwoman · 21/06/2018 22:36

Sorry, laughing so much couldn’t type vogon.....

FloralBunting · 21/06/2018 22:40

So, notwithstanding dubious racist tweets, would we then be able to call Alan Sugar arsephobic for making statements like "As sure as there's a hole in my arse..."?

Agerbilatemycardigan · 21/06/2018 23:14

From a place, soon unnamed
Into a world that doesn't want me
For all life's problems I am blamed
Still my usurpers mock and taunt me.

They want all that once was mine
And try to climb inside my skin
My protests fall upon deaf ears
Soon I'll be forced to let them in

Nameless, homeless, wordless, lost
Soul screaming into the abyss
Allies know they'll pay the cost
If they don't learn to call me Cis

If truth can be erased by lies
And facts can be replaced by fear
Who'll protect the ones that hide
From those who love to point and jeer

Keep talking truth, talk loud and long
I'll be there walking by your side
Keep our revolution strong
Increase the swiftness of our stride

We are Legion, our strength, grown
We'll not be cowed by mindless threats
Because we do not stand alone
Do your worst, we're not done yet.

Ereshkigal · 21/06/2018 23:14

I reported this thread as spam last night and got an email today saying it had been deleted and the OP given their marching orders!

OP definitely got their marching orders but maybe MN wanted to keep the poetry!

Amalfimamma · 21/06/2018 23:16

AngryAttackKittens

Maybe "arsehole" will eventually be the only insult allowed, since everyone has one of those.

I'm from a specific part of the country. The first insult I learnt was and is used only there, and it's not even as bad as arsehole where I'm from tbh,

cuntyballs

Bern used for generations (I remember my great great gran using it often), in every situation, and from a time when a transman was a dyslexic man who works on trains.

thebewilderness · 21/06/2018 23:21

Amalfimamma
It sounds like a variation of the girly man insult.
Our half of the population has been the go to insult for the other half of the population for a thousand years.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/06/2018 23:42

The poet who wrote 'the purple cow' quoted upthread got pissed off with its success so he followed it with this:

Ah, yes, I wrote the “Purple Cow” –
I’m sorry, now, I wrote it;
But I can tell you anyhow
I’ll kill you if you quote it.

ErrolTheDragon · 21/06/2018 23:47

There are some tribute cow poems here www.thedickinson.net/the-purple-cow-poems.html

thebewilderness · 21/06/2018 23:48

He wrote wonderful nonsense poems, Ogden Nash. I loved them all when I was a kidlet.

Amalfimamma · 21/06/2018 23:49

thebewilderness
Girly man was used in my part of the country to describe an effeminate man, he he gay or not, being a man over 25 living at home with your mother was grounds to be a girly man
Cuntyballs was something more, Used to describe men and women, it was and is used to describe any and every type of behaviour which is deemed to be unacceptable.

My Hoover, fridge, oven, husband, kids (under my breath), far, front door, notte, fatta, Brother and sister and menu more thing have been reale e to ne a cuntyballs at one time or another.

Even that kamikaze pièce of paper that decides to give you a paper cut?

A cuntyballs of the first defree

ILikeyourHairyHands · 21/06/2018 23:51

Oh you silly sausage
But, not
For your sausage
Is not what defines you
It is an inverted femme-hole
That cries, milky tears
Which drip from your bedevilled crotch-tits
And send
Confused packages of spent DNA
Into your silky knickers.