Lisa Muggeridge Suspended by Twitter and Quoting her breaches MN Guidelines

[R0wantrees]

I posted news that another woman has been suspended by Twitter. This seems likely as a result of targetted mass reports

Lisa Muggeridge comments at idgeofreason.wordpress.com

& recently spoke at the Inconvenient Women: We Need to Talk meeting in London.

I posted the quote by Lisa because it concerns me that women are being silenced.

My background is English Literature so my style is to leave a writer's words for others to read for themselves.

There were a number of apparent attempts to derail the thread and so when this happened, I quoted further comment by Lisa Muggeridge. To let her words speak.

I believe in the importance of free speech.

I have many books on my bookshelf, which I am sure may have contentious comments in. I don't though believe that books are dangerous or should be burned.

I also read authors who had serious failings.

I wasn't advised that there was an issue with the OP but understand that within the quoted comment was misgendering.

I felt that it was not for me to edit Lisa Muggeridge's words.

Magdalen Berns

twitter.com/MagdalenBerns

Comments: www.youtube.com/channel/UCvTTakI97sQ4SkMnsH8r0qQ

Victoria Smith / Glosswitch

twitter.com/glosswitch

New Statesman article:
"The demonisation of Mumsnet is just the latest incarnation of witch-hunting
Naturally, it frightens people to think of what a group of mothers might actually demand...."

www.newstatesman.com/politics/feminism/2018/05/demonisation-mumsnet-just-latest-incarnation-witch-hunting

Nic Williams
twitter.com/AskNic

"Welcome to Fair Play For Women

We are a group of ordinary women who are concerned that in the rush to reform transgender laws that women’s voices will not be listened to.

Women get called transphobic for simply asking questions. Women are afraid to speak out and fear for their jobs and reputation if they do.

We are the voice of these women. "

fairplayforwomen.com

I really can't understand a word of her writing and it just seems boring and over inflated. I hold a postgraduate qualification and am a professional person but it just presents as grandiose clap trap to me. I've lost interest.

(I've run out of image credits!)

twitter.com/ResistersUK/status/978578631625670656

Stephanie Davies-Arai

"It is a biological impossibility for a girl to be born into a boys body"

twitter.com/cwknews

Interview:

www.transgendertrend.com

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Linda Bellos

"It particularly offends me to be called a 'cis woman' to signify that we are not Trans women. This to me is the equivilent of being called a 'non-white (person?), and frankly I will not be silent to the insult that it gives to all women born and recognised as female from birth"

recent thread with interviews and comment by Linda Bellos:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3237264-Linda-Bellos-arrested-Title-edited-by-MNHQ-to-make-clear-that-she-was-in-fact-interviewed-under-caution

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Amy Desir twitter.com/akmd87

"Its about a woman's right to choose"

manfridayuk.org

"Let’s start with this statement: I am not going to justify women having their own spaces. Thousands of women, some I know, most I don’t, fought the fight for women’s spaces before I was born so that I, and other women in the UK today, don’t have to. Thanks to them, women’s rights, protections, spaces, and services exist to facilitate women’s participation in social life by upholding and protecting our safety, privacy and dignity. Programs and offices reserved for women seek to redress systemic discrimination against women that puts us at a disadvantage compared to our male peers."

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Heather Brunskell-Evans

"I'm absolutely behind anyone who wants to define themselves any way they they want- if they're an adult. The problem then becomes for me what we're actually doing with children. What is happening is really serious and we a public debate about it"

twitter.com/brunskellevans

Comments: www.heather-brunskell-evans.co.uk

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Lucy Masoud

"Its about whether we base our laws on facts & reality, or whether we base our laws on subjective feelings"

twitter.com/luluchops1

Speech at WPUK meeting:

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Kellie-Jay Keen-Minshull / Posie Parker

"I will not kowtow to an ideology that says I cannot speak the truth"

twitter.com/ThePosieParker

Comments: www.theposieparker.com

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Janice Turner

"A feeling of gender identity does not erase biological reality"

twitter.com/VictoriaPeckham?lang=en

'Janice Turner edited women’s magazines for eight years before she became a columnist on The Guardian. She has been with The Times since 2003 and since then has been shortlisted for the British Press Awards six times, winning interviewer of the year in 2014. As well as writing her column, she is an interviewer and feature writer for The Times'

"Trans activists think debate is hate speech

Feminists want a reasoned discussion on the law but face opponents who use social media and boycotts to silence them"

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trans-activists-think-debate-is-hate-speech-hsh7vpmzt

Thank you for gathering all these women's statements together R0wantrees , what a great resource.

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Karen Ingala-Smith

"A belief in and commitment to universal human rights is not incompatible with prioritising the well-being of women. Especially in the context of women who have experienced men'd violence"

twitter.com/K_IngalaSmith

kareningalasmith.com/counting-dead-women/2014-2/

Counting Dead Women
2018: At least 61 UK women have been killed by men, or where a man in the principal suspect up to 9 June 2018. 61 women in 160 days is one woman dead every 2.6 days.

2017: 140 UK women killed by men or where a man is the principal suspect
2016: 124 UK women killed by men or where a man is the principal suspect
2015: 138 UK women killed by men or where a man is the principal suspect
2014: 156 UK women killed by men or where a man is the principal suspect
2013: 151 UK women killed by men or where a man is the principal suspect
2012: 141 UK women killed by men or where a man is the principal suspect

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Chimamanda Ngozi-Adichie

" Because we can oppose violence against trans women
whilst also acknowledging differences.
Because we should be able to acknowledge differences
whilst also being supportive.
Because we do not have to insist, in the name of being supportive,
that everything is the same"

Thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3234717-Chimamanda-Ngozi-Adichie-Interview

R0wantrees

You're amazing, thank you. It's a sad fact that individual women have to do this collating and counting. No one else is doing it. Quite the opposite.

Showing us what all these amazing women are saying, in turn, is very powerful.

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Kiri Tunks

"This is a woman's rights issue because women's rights are not yet won"

twitter.com/kiritunks?lang=en
Teacher. Trade Unionist. Internationalist. Neither Barbie or GI Joe. Another world is possible.

twitter.com/ResistersUK/status/984316990490861573

Sarah Ditum

"There's no way to avoid picking a side when you yourself are the disputed territory"

twitter.com/sarahditum
www.theguardian.com/profile/sarah-ditum

'Channel 4’s discussion on gender and identity didn’t work, but that it was tried offers hope'
(concludes)
"Then there are the questions that can’t be answered as long as debate is considered to be violence. Why was there a 20-fold increase in children referred to NHS gender identity services between 2010 and 2017 and why has that rise been driven by female adolescents identifying as boys or non-binary? As many lesbians observed, there seems no place for butches: young women who don’t identify with the faff and submission of femininity now often tend not to identify as women at all.

Underneath the celebration of the “genderquake” are hard problems and grievous losses. Is it a triumph for liberalism to suggest to boyish girls they might be male and girlish boys that their true self is female? How can we counter sexism if institutions no longer “see sex”? Only through debates such as the one Channel 4 attempted can such questions begin to be answered; the next attempt needs to be better."
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/13/genderquake-failed-now-for-a-proper-trans-debate

thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3243464-Channel-4s-Genderquake-Debate-is-heavily-criticised-boycotted-by-prominent-transgender-activists-allies

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Venice Allen

"I'm sorry to offend you but there's a change in the law which is being proposed which is effectively going to erase women's rights and that's more important to me than your offence"

Dr Radfem www.youtube.com/channel/UCdOAL2_mpBKEW4YO4YAPNIA
www.facebook.com/DRradfem/

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Maria MacLachlan

"I'm used to thinking of this person who is a male as male"

twitter.com/Skepticat_UK

comments: www.skepticat.org/2017/09/when-vicious-entitled-thugs-attack-i-fight-back/

twitter.com/ResistersUK/status/985418459529007104

Rebecca Reilly-Cooper

"We have sleepwalked into a situation where the reality of female biology is routinely denied; the lived experience and the oppression of female-bodied persons is rendered invisible and unspeakable; and women are regularly harassed, threatened and defamed as bigots for continuing to insist that female biology exists and female biology matters"

twitter.com/boodleoops

comments: rebeccarc.com
sexandgenderintro.com

Speech at WPUK meeting: womansplaceuk.org/film/

twitter.com/ResistersUK

Kate Millett

"Its interesting that many women do not recognise themselves as discriminated against; no better prrof could be found of the totality of their conditioning"

twitter.com/ResistersUK/status/991926381822038017

Maya Angelou

"Each time a woman stands up for herself, without knowing it possibly, without claiming it, she stands up for all women"

'I Know Why the Caged Bird Sings'
World premiere radio dramatisation of Maya Angelou's iconic debut memoir. This beautiful evocation of Angelou's life in the Deep South, begins in 1931 (currently running)
www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b6htgb

Rowan Thanks for all the work you have done here.
Shocking to see all these women's voices that are being silenced. These are legitimate issues, legitimate arguments, and women's opinions matter.

Rowan, I needed that! After a day of thinking 'give me strength' - that gave me strength! I'm so proud to support them and fight with them.