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Lisa Muggeridge Suspended by Twitter and Quoting her breaches MN Guidelines

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R0wantrees · 20/06/2018 22:22

I posted news that another woman has been suspended by Twitter. This seems likely as a result of targetted mass reports

Lisa Muggeridge comments at idgeofreason.wordpress.com

& recently spoke at the Inconvenient Women: We Need to Talk meeting in London.

I posted the quote by Lisa because it concerns me that women are being silenced.

My background is English Literature so my style is to leave a writer's words for others to read for themselves.

There were a number of apparent attempts to derail the thread and so when this happened, I quoted further comment by Lisa Muggeridge. To let her words speak.

I believe in the importance of free speech.

I have many books on my bookshelf, which I am sure may have contentious comments in. I don't though believe that books are dangerous or should be burned.

I also read authors who had serious failings.

I wasn't advised that there was an issue with the OP but understand that within the quoted comment was misgendering.

I felt that it was not for me to edit Lisa Muggeridge's words.

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Ereshkigal · 22/06/2018 08:25

Yes I saw that the other night. A couple of the posts are slightly convincing so I think it took some people in at first. I guess they thought she was being sarcastic about having an "abusive account".

R0wantrees · 22/06/2018 08:33

Twitterland is a strange place... who knows what goes on there?

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R0wantrees · 22/06/2018 10:46

Germaine Greer

Link to recent thread with links to lectures etc:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3244160-Germaine-Greer-Fan-Club

Lisa Muggeridge Suspended by Twitter and Quoting her breaches MN Guidelines
OP posts:
R0wantrees · 23/06/2018 00:30

Women are fighting back!

OP posts:
Waddlelikeapenguin · 23/06/2018 03:25

Rowan Star this thread is wonderful.

It is Maya Angelou that I have running at the back of my mind Smile
You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise.

Picassospaintbrush · 23/06/2018 03:40

You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes you might find
You get what you need
But I went down to the demonstration
To get your fair share of abuse
Singing, "We're gonna vent our frustration
If we don't we're gonna blow a fifty-amp fuse"
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
You can't always get what you want
But if you try sometimes well you just might find
You get what you need

Terfulike · 23/06/2018 03:55

Waddle

Rowan star this thread is wonderful.

It is Maya Angelou that I have running at the back of my mind smile
You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise

Picassospaintbrush · 23/06/2018 04:01

Wake up you sleepy head
Put on some clothes, shake up your bed
Put another log on the fire for me
I've made some breakfast and coffee
Look out my window and what do I see
A crack in the sky and a hand reaching down to me
All the nightmares came today
And it looks as though they're here to stay
What are we coming to
No room for me, no fun for you
I think about a world to come
Where the books were found by the Golden ones
Written in pain, written in awe
By a puzzled man who questioned
What we were here for
All the strangers came today
And it looks as though they're here to stay
Oh you Pretty Things
Don't you know you're driving your
Mamas and Papas insane
Oh you Pretty Things
Don't you know you're driving your
Mamas and Papas insane
Let me make it plain
You gotta…

Terfulike · 23/06/2018 04:07

Waddle

Rowan star this thread is wonderful.

It is Maya Angelou that I have running at the back of my mind smile
You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise

Picassospaintbrush · 23/06/2018 04:14

You've got your mother in a whirl
She's not sure if you're a boy or a girl
Hey babe, your hair's alright
Hey babe, let's go out tonight
You like me, and I like it all
We like dancing and we look divine
You love bands when they're playing hard
You want more and you want it fast
They put you down, they say I'm wrong
You tacky thing, you put them on
Rebel Rebel, you've torn your dress
Rebel Rebel, your face is a mess
Rebel Rebel, how could they know?
Hot tramp, I love you so!
Don't ya?
Doo doo doo-doo doo doo doo doo
You've got your mother in a whirl 'cause she's
Not sure if you're a boy or a girl
Hey babe, your hair's alright
Hey babe, let's stay out tonight
You like…

Terfulike · 23/06/2018 04:25

Waddle

Rowan star this thread is wonderful.

It is Maya Angelou that I have running at the back of my mind smile
You may write me down in history
With your bitter, twisted lies,
You may tread me in the very dirt
But still, like dust, I'll rise

Southfields · 23/06/2018 13:13

Lisa at 56 minutes in.

Southfields · 23/06/2018 16:21

I'm making some memes taken from quotes I have selected from the writings of Lisa Muggeridge, to be shared on Twitter, where she has been banned, to keep her name and her ideas and writings alive on there.

yipyap · 23/06/2018 20:38

Good idea Southfields

R0wantrees · 28/06/2018 21:23

V2 of the video 'Women are Fighting Back!"

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lisamuggeridge · 03/07/2018 21:41

In 2010 I realisedthat austerity would hit me and my peers from the Looked After system and lone parents very hard and that the implications were serious. I was invited to speak at oxfordgef.yolasite.com/blog/lisa-ansell and thoughtthis was a movement to fightausterity. THAT is what they said. I was invited to speak at Netroots, a Labour, trade union funded event, paid for with my trade union dues. I didnt know that I wouldnt be allowed to talk about the political consensus on the systems I was discussing or that my speech there would lead to me being targeted by people with actual power. The elite brats who are STILL at the heart of Corbynism, and the Labour Party, and editors, all went out of their way. I had stalkers validated, I stopped counting harassment on twitter if it lasted less than 7 hours, I eventually stopped counting if it lasted less than a day then I stopped ocunting when it hit 100 episodes. The elite brats around Oxford University and Labour when I discussed protocol for social workers on strikle days if they had court hearings, call me a scab. The entire British left, really. My daughter not safe at my house not once, not twice, but repeatedly. Threats, rape threats. This is for discussing wat was in that speech at oxford univresity. Thatspeech would now get me called TERF. I have been defamed, abused, threatened, had my house targeted, and had major institutions push this. I didnt choose austerity, I didnt choose poverty and I didnt choose to understand these systems but what I did do was record tribalism being manufactured to hide consensus and I didnt stop. And I did this because the parasitic dynamic between the left and women like me can be easily broken if the host says they are aware of the situation, and the parasite behaves abusively openly. Addition of social dimension to political communication meant this was possible for the first time. I also kept an eye on the crisis I was discussing because I knew and can demonstrate I knew 8 years ago we were heading into institutional redefinition. I crowdfunded tuition to the LSE to their new Inequalities Institute NOT because I wanted a masters, although I do, because they would give me an overview of how elite institutions viewed the institutions I was familiar with and I could see and assess the distance in light of what I had experienced. I was correct there is no way for them at this level to know about these systems cos they developed from the ground up and the last time had the opportunity to redefine institutions(you cant just do it you have to wait for crisis) the changes to family, understanding of abuse, loooked after children, didnt exist. These systems have evolved through crisis and THIS crisis will merely consolidate them. I know this and say this. Which is why I have to be silenced. This all sounds like I have loads of resources. I dont. I have complex ptsd, I live on less than 150 a week,. that transphobia list made me unemployable so even with an LSE masters I am unemployed. My daughter hasnt had new clothes from me in over a year and her dad has bought them so she doesnt wear clothes with holes. I wear clothes with holes. So if I am completely powerless, the crisis I am describing is happening in front of us, why do I need to be constantly targeted, erased and why is it now illegal on Mumsnet to discuss what I am discussing? Because what I am discussing ALL mothers know. Regarding 'deadnaming'. The law is actually clear. We have laws around abusive behaviour which require that ALL mothers are literate in identifying abusive behaviour and in that instance we are ALL required to disregard the identity of that person and focus on their behaviour. An abusive male is correctly being identified in terms of gender and sex and in line with the law. An abusive male does not become a victim because I didnt consider his inner identity. I will not be forced, as someone who has had abusive relationship be forced to say things which are not true out of fear. I will NOT do that. I am sorry Mumsnet feel that I am so terrible, and so awful but I think you will find I havent done anything but injured the identity of narcissists. My twitter account was under constant attack. It had 1400 followers. Thats not a media following. I talked about breadmaking, and moaning about not doing housework and on the days where I was stuck I talked to my friends. I never used it to broad cast, I never asked to be INVITED by major political parties and newspapers to be their novelty pov and I have done nothing to deserve eight years of abuse putting me and my daughter at risk. BUt fine I am clearly something dangerous and scary. I dont have enough money to get through the week, some days I dont eat, I am skinny, I am probably going to end up not well. But yah. Am bullying the GUardian, the elite brats around Corbyn and trans activists with more money than God. Course I am.

lisamuggeridge · 03/07/2018 21:44

If I hadnt record that who would have? My trade union? The Guardian? Did Mumsnet know how many of their membres were not eating during austerity? I have NEVER pursued a media career, I dont even have a background where I could be a public figure because me and sister have agreements over what our kids know about our childhoods, so am no threat to anyone. Am not in competition. And yet me saying this terrifying to political parties, newspapers and people with power? Why. I think we all know why.

RedHoodGirl · 03/07/2018 21:45

Is the Lisa Muggeridge account still up?

I thought it had been suspended?

RedHoodGirl · 03/07/2018 21:46

I mean the parody account that people were talking about earlier on here?

lisamuggeridge · 03/07/2018 21:50

Before I go I want to share the promise I made when I realised equality would be rolled back in 2010. I said that before my daughter was 18 the blindspot that did this would be corrected and it will. It will be corrected by christmas and it will not happen again. Mumsnet can delete this thread and any other but they might want to ask themselves why they didnt notice equality being rolled back for women like us at all, why they didnt see this coming and why they are facilitating the relentless abuse and harassment of a mother on behalf of people with power. Is that really the brand they wanted? Clearly. I wont be posting again. But i will be fulfilling that promise and its looking like it will be done before my daughter is 12. By the time this year is done that blindspot will have been corrcted in academia, media, politics and policy making. I will be making sure of it.

Elletorro · 03/07/2018 21:56

ROwantrees

Can you save Lisa’s post before it gets pulled please?

Elletorro · 03/07/2018 21:57

Lisa

How can we help you?

Elletorro · 03/07/2018 21:58

Please pm me? I sincerely want to help

lisamuggeridge · 03/07/2018 23:52

Oh and @bespin you didnt notice I had acounts lined up. They are ont me. You know exactly who set them up. Women know how to recognise narcissistic abuse. Your ability to make htings up about me is enviable. Did you think you would be spending your time waiting for mention of a single mum you dont know to tell lies about her because she spoe about poverty she lived and systems she knew? Dear Mumsnet. Wont be posting again. At all. Horrified by this. Horrified.

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