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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Very basic, obvious examples of male privilege please?

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tigersox · 18/06/2018 19:21

Examples every man will experience. Undeniable and obvious

I'm trying to make male privilege simple to a friend who feels us feminists have gone too far.

Thanks Grin

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fmsfms · 23/06/2018 12:48

@Pratchet what concerns?

I was addressing the ridiculous claim that it is mens fault that they die whilst doing dangerous jobs.

If you can't see the inherent sexism/misandry in that post, or you do and ignore it then clearly you are no egalitarian

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 12:50

That hasn't been done. Screenshot please.

Verbena87 · 23/06/2018 12:50

When was the last time a man was made to feel uncomfortable because he couldn’t be arsed/didn’t want to shave his legs? (Bodies being socially acceptable as long as they’re clean vs bodies needing to be shaved/made up in order to be seen as ‘normal’)

Any men get asked why they’re not planning to have kids, as if this is an odd choice?

Also this: “a man and his son were injured in a major car accident. The man was pronounced dead on arrival to the hospital and the son was rushed to theatre. The surgeon on duty looked at him and said “I can’t do this one, that’s my son”. Explain”

The answer of course is that the surgeon’s his mother, but most people asked can’t get it. That. That we automatically assume a woman couldn’t be in that role.

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 12:51

Christ lol, at least make an effort to keep up with the thread before you make stupid claims about what has and hasn't been posted. It's literally at the top of the page

"1)95% of all work place deaths are male because many of said males DON’T FOLLOW THE SAFETY PROCEDURES!!! And why? Because male privileges mean that they are used to doing as they damn well please and others cannot tell them what to do. Even when it is “Don’t smoke near the gas leaks”, “wear a hard hat”, “use the safety equipment”, “Don’t drink alcohol before operating this machine”."

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 12:51

Another one:

"In North America, where these stats often come from, construction workers use drugs and alcohol at an alarming rate. I worked in a homeless shelter, used as cheap accommodation for migrant construction workers, who would get good and fucking high on meth all night then go to work. "

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 12:52

"Implying that all men are blyth [sic] about safety precautions and using machinary [sic] whilst on drugs

I literally saw them. With my girly eyes.

haXXor · 23/06/2018 12:56

@fmsfms It is the fault of the class of men that some men die doing dangerous jobs. This is not the same as blaming the individual men who die.

The men in our majority-male Parliament fail to pass laws to stop the men who make up the majority of directors and senior management from putting the men they employ at risk.

Working class men suffer socio-economic class oppression from others who are more privileged and mainly men. This is distinct from the sex class oppression that women suffer from men.

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 12:57

@haxxor try reading the posts I quoted again, you are misrepresenting their argument

Where did @pratchet go??????

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 12:57

In no way does that you say what you said it says. Are you actually kidding?

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 12:58

I'm right here calling you out on your nonsense Smile

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 13:06

"I was addressing the ridiculous claim that it is mens fault that they die whilst doing dangerous jobs."

"That hasn't been done. Screenshot please."

"95% of all work place deaths are male because many of said males DON’T FOLLOW THE SAFETY PROCEDURES!!! "

""In North America, where these stats often come from, construction workers use drugs and alcohol at an alarming rate. I worked in a homeless shelter, used as cheap accommodation for migrant construction workers, who would get good and fucking high on meth all night then go to work. ""

OK

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 13:09

How does that back up what you claim? It's ludicrous to say that.

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 13:10

I can't believe you need an explanation of the above posts.

Got better things to do then explain simple and obvious things to an ideologue!

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 13:19

Running away because you can't? Really?

haXXor · 23/06/2018 13:24

Because male privileges mean that they are used to doing as they damn well please and others cannot tell them what to do. Even when it is “Don’t smoke near the gas leaks”

Management failure to consider this kind of endemic male risk culture and counter it by building a safety culture are part of socio-economic oppression. I speak from experience when I say that it is very hard to be the one person in a team (the rest if who were male, surprise surprise) who refuses to prop a "keep shut" fire door open when moving large equipment around. It's also hard to be the one person who will stand up to an area manager (male, surprise surprise) who decides to store a flatpack display unit by leaning it against the bakery fire extinguisher that is there to protect the bakers' lives if the oven catches fire.

When management are doing dangerous things and are not backing workers who call out dangerous things, workers will do dangerous things.

haXXor · 23/06/2018 13:36

@fmsfms I understood perfectly and my analysis of why men in male-dominated workplaces die more often of work-related accidents is in my immediately prior post.

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 13:37

Abandoning the soapbox when unable to justify the twisting of a feminist's words is a familiar tactic of some transadvocates.

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 13:37

@pratchet whatever helps you sleep at night

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 13:39

Can you not see how you are wrong?

Kettlepotblackagain · 23/06/2018 13:46

Abandoning the soapbox when unable to justify the twisting of a feminist's words is a familiar tactic of some transadvocates.

It's so true.

We see it time and time and time and time again.

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 13:46

"I was addressing the ridiculous claim that it is mens fault that they die whilst doing dangerous jobs."

"That hasn't been done. Screenshot please."

"95% of all work place deaths are male because many of said males DON’T FOLLOW THE SAFETY PROCEDURES!!! "

""In North America, where these stats often come from, construction workers use drugs and alcohol at an alarming rate. I worked in a homeless shelter, used as cheap accommodation for migrant construction workers, who would get good and fucking high on meth all night then go to work. ""

I'm going to keep repeating this because the burden of proof is not on me. You are the one that claims nobody has stated it's mens fault that they die on the workplace, despite two posts obviously blaming men for not following HSE and taking drugs

Pratchet · 23/06/2018 14:01

But what you've said doesn't contradict the post? Repeating it doesn't make it true HTH

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 14:08

"I was addressing the ridiculous claim that it is mens fault that they die whilst doing dangerous jobs."

"That hasn't been done. Screenshot please."

"95% of all work place deaths are male because many of said males DON’T FOLLOW THE SAFETY PROCEDURES!!! "

""In North America, where these stats often come from, construction workers use drugs and alcohol at an alarming rate. I worked in a homeless shelter, used as cheap accommodation for migrant construction workers, who would get good and fucking high on meth all night then go to work. ""

fmsfms · 23/06/2018 14:08

I'm going to keep repeating this because the burden of proof is not on me.

womanformallyknownaswoman · 23/06/2018 14:21

Abandoning the soapbox when unable to justify the twisting of a feminist's words is a familiar tactic of some transadvocates.

It's the flounce in another guise

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