Very basic, obvious examples of male privilege please?

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Examples every man will experience. Undeniable and obvious

I'm trying to make male privilege simple to a friend who feels us feminists have gone too far.

Thanks

No-one would tell a man not to be too clever or too successful in case it puts women off.

Women aren't going into construction as it's not really presented to them as a viable career option at a young age, which is a shame.

Younger men / teenagers quite often start as apprentices and many follow in their father's footsteps.

Construction is very much seen as a 'male' industry.

Yes to children's book having more male characters, the Gruffalo for example has all male characters. The Gingerbread Man is the baker, his wife .. when she is quite clearly also a baker.
One Fish, Two Fish has a page about combs for little girls but not boys.

I change ' he' to 'she' all time when reading stories.

until writing "Carol [a worker on the site] is a fat slapper" on the lift hoardings and drawing sexual images on temporary surfaces stops on the site floor, women are going to leave or not join up

Was it @Pratchet who said that the biggest positive discrimination men get is not being sexually harassed and assaulted? I'd certainly say it's a huge aspect of male privilege.

If a yr 1 teacher does 'what do you want to be when you grow up' , she won't bluntly tell a boy who says he wants to be a builder that boys can't be builders.

Man asks company for an adjustment in his times ie leaves 20/30 mins early so he can catch an earlier train he makes this up by coming earlier by 20/30 mins woman asks for hours to be adjusted due to a childcare conflict gets told no now it was asking for the exact same arrangements as the man but she is told to make other arrangements for childcare she is now job hunting

Men get taken seriously more often, in almost every situation. From health care to police reporting to general converation

Men wouldnt get felt up by their fathers friends as 'a joke' when 13yo.

Men wouldnt get routinely sexually harrassed at work and, at the time, see it as a normal 'rite of passage' so as to be taken under the males wing and taught everything in the job to get ahead.

Men wouldn't get told by their boss, and good friend, not to wear their hair down to a business meeting because 'its too sexy, and distracting'.

Men wouldnt be ignored by clients around a boardroom table, instead deferring to their more junior male colleagues. What a surprise the clients got when it came time to negotiate and said junior colleagues turned to me to say 'she's the boss'.

Men wouldn't get told whilst sitting with industry colleagues after an event (all of us director level and above and above) that 'you're brilliant but we'd never hire you at your age now 'cos you're just going to go off and have babies soon. Ha ha'

Men wouldnt be fired from their VP job within 2 days of announcing their pregancy with no performance issues, ever, quite the opposite in fact.

I could go on and on sadly. Haven't even touched on the daily life 'niggles'.

Turns out he wasn't a lovely guy at all. I should have walked away from chatting with him based on his views on this alone.

Just disappointed in myself for giving him a chance when he's definitely DARVO

He was reading the thread but I don't think he'd still be reading anymore since we have blocked each other

He was a Nice Guy. You need to train yourself to spot them!

@MrsTerryPratchett why was he a nice guy??

I thought he was just in need of education and would get it... but nope not only does he not get it, he doesn't want to or think he should

For other reasons he is also a CUNT

Not a 'nice guy'. You have a Nice Guy. It's different. Basically nice guys are just those guys that are nice. Plenty of them!

Yours is a Nice Guy. A man who 'just wants to understand' and is 'in favour of equal rights'. Some of them even call themselves feminists. But if they want sex, or to be right or for you to tell them how great they are, their behaviour changes. Same ones that talk about the friend zone. And how Nice Guys finish last.

nice-guy.urbanup.com/7159576

Taking the dog for a walk in the park at 11 at night

Going for a run or just a walk in broad daylight on a park or common when no one is around

Not having to pretend to be grateful when a man is needed for strength and therefore decides he is also needed to explain the whole f'ing job to you because if you say 'yes i know' he'll just say ok carry your own marble block

Knowing that it's more likely a copper will take his side than yours

Walking down the street and not having anyone rate your looks just because you’re female.

Being in a world where people are promoted by others of their own because of what sex they are, and complaining that if the other sex wants to do something about that, it would no longer be a 'meritocracy'

I found this on Pinterest a few years ago...

And the last one.

Women not being equal work opportunities because she 'might' have children in the future

Not being able to just sit quietly in public without a man thinking you are there for him to talk to. Literally happened to me last night.

It’s The World Cup, not the Men’s World Cup.

@TheLesserOfTwoWeevils are you me?!

I love a rare steak (sometimes even a blue steak!) but persuading people to take this order can be difficult. Love pints too.

Inevitably when our order arrives the steak and pint are reverentially placed before DH while his weedy salad gets slung in my direction.

4% of all venture capital goes to women-led startups although they perform better than male-led ones. Women have to take a token man along to any discussions and presentations as the men believe the words coming from his mouth, not hers. I do the same - I have a friendly male geek who's doing some work on my tech startup who's an introvert and doesn't like people. But we have an agreement that he will accompany me sometimes so that the men (who prevail in tech startup land) will have someone to make them feel comfortable and to "give the venture credibility" in their eyes. So fucking tiresome.

Yours is a Nice Guy. A man who 'just wants to understand' and is 'in favour of equal rights'. Some of them even call themselves feminists. But if they want sex, or to be right or for you to tell them how great they are, their behaviour changes. Same ones that talk about the friend zone. And how Nice Guys finish last.

http://nice-guy.urbanup.com/7159576

@MrsTerryPratchett ah yes, he was definitely one of those. I was meant to tell you all in a prior post how he's an advocate for women's rights and helps out his mum with her domestic violence charity/business/not sure what it was he said it was re DV though.

And yet he sulked that I wouldn't jump into a relationship before meeting and give him commitment and "consent" WTF from the start rather than drop my barriers and expect him to work so hard (I said I liked chivalry/respect). When I dared to ask what he was up to I got told how he's a grown ass man who doesn't have to tell me and told I need to apologise for overreacting because it's all my fault he wasn't going to answer because I made no commitment so he didn't need to say

I was only asking a question but it did become a crime. So I blocked him. Who the fuck requests "consent" BEFORE you date them?!

Who the fuck requests "consent" BEFORE you date them?!

New tactic- - seems like he needs to watch it!!

Lol at this page,, someone rightly points out that men are more likely to do dangerous jobs and people argue it's their own fault for ignoring HSE and doing drugs in their workplace, what?

Yeah, what about all the semi slaves building football stadiums in Qatar and Skyscrapers in the UAE?

Fms: this is a feminist forum. Your concerns might be better addressed on a forum for males?