Spreading the idea that everyone has a gender identity

[Macareaux]

Mermaids has quite a reach. Influencing consumer groups.

The ease with which schools, workplaces and other organisations are being brainwashed is quite astounding

I've been forced into a gender role of carer by society and a slightly sexist dp but I'm not naturally feminine. My morality makes me kind and supportive to the person I'm looking after but if I had a choice I'd be doing something mathematical in an office.

My dad worked in the nhs. He's very heterosexual, but also caring and empathetic (feminine). At home he does diy but not housework (masculine) so I'm not sure what his gender identity is either. Perhaps I need to tell him he's gender fluid?

We're all different. There is not set way for males and females to behave.

Gender is part of our identity in the same way religion, nationality and social class are. It's socialised into us. So the idea that someone can be 'assigned the wrong gender identity at birth' is nonsense. Could someone be 'assigned British' but have a strong inborn sense of being French, for instance? If they did, would we take it seriously?

Can you tell us what a gender identity is Bespin? Then we can tell you whether we have one or not.

No 'gender identity' here. No innate sense that being a woman fits, or feels right, or that I would be really uncomfortable if someone used male pronouns for me.
Only the experience of having female biology and having always been treated as a 'woman'. The latter being something that I have fought against, because who wants to be seen as lesser?

*If they did, would we take it seriously?”

Well, remember how feeling black went for Rachel Dolezal?

I’ve always felt an affinity for Scandinavian culture, and think that I would have been happier if I had been born to Danish parents. I’m aware enough to understand that simply moving to Denmark would not suddenly make me Danish, and there would be times where I would always be viewed as an outsider, as I haven’t had the cultural upbringing that is quite unique to that part of the world.

I don’t have a “gender identity”. I am a woman, that is to say an adult human of the female sex. I have a personality with many innate, constant traits that I was born with. I have knowledge and skills that my path on this earth have taught me, both because other people believed I should learn some things and because I wanted to learn things. I am 52 so have mostly completely forgotten anything other people decided I should learn in favour of things I myself value.

I dress the way I want (which may include in part wanting to please others, as I respect those I love). I live the way I want.

Gender identity is a synonymous concept to soul.

I'm an atheist, not a religionist or a cultist. I don't have a gender identity because they don't exist. Human beings have sexes, personalities and socialised behaviours. That's it. Transgression against socialised behaviours isn't evidence of a soul separate from the body. The belief in the separation of mind and body is called dualism. It's a faith-based, science-denying belief.

Dysphoria exists. People with dysphoria need services and healthcare and society needs to protect them from discrimination. This has nothing to do with the above religious beliefs.

Why are other cults not given opportunity, government and charity funds to push their ideology? I am grateful that this doesn't happen regularly, or does it?

There will be a public backslash. The charity CEO types who are publicly pushing this, will take the blame, have both been women. The men in the background will carry on.

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-5850497/Tyranny-minorities-live-age-mob-rule-minorities.html

I know that I'm female because I am currently bleeding from my vagina. That has fuck all to do with the various personality traits, aesthetic preferences etc that get grouped together as "gender".

If all people of a sex behaved and thought in the same way wouldn't that make it difficult to fall in love as there would be no variety.

I have a body and a personality too. I am completely agenderist.

SarahCarer By saying I am agenderist, I don’t mean to deny that society treats me a certain way because I am female (sex) and that that has shaped who I am today. As NotTerfNorCis says the construct of gender, along with similar constructs such as class and nationality are socialised into us. Because we are not disconnected beings in a vacuum.

But that does not mean that it is, or has to be, part of my identity.

Believing we can be free of it is part of the lie
Or, a difference between radical and liberal feminist thought, perhaps.

We're all "non-biary", we haven't stuck rigidly to society's idea of masculine and feminine since the 1950s, and not everyone did even then. I am aware that I am a woman but that is not the same as having a gender identity, I do as I wish.

I've yet to see an evidenced based definition of gender ID.

No peer reviewed symposium has taken place, yet our NHS, charity sector and public services go for it.

I read that Oxfam are no longer employing as many people, after their scandal. Charity job creation schemes, PR and advertising gigs off the back of vulnerable people will no longer make £££ for virtue signalling.

I think the origins of all this gender rubbish come from “gender marketing” which was developed by advertising/marketing in the US in the 1980s. The hocus pocus industry...

Sell your soul to the D&E diversity training. What qualifications and safeguarding is involved in those that offer public services training?

What safeguarding is there in those taking voluntarily roles on police advisory boards? I saw a tweet posted on another thread, by someone who said they are abusing their role to push a political ideology.

I feel like I do have a gender but I'm as sure as I can be that it's not innate. I've been shaped this way by others since I was a girl and it went into overdrive when I became a teenager.

I find it constricting though, and I hate the idea there are organisations out there trying to reinforce it rather than help people free themselves from it.

Getting back to Mermaids, I do not consider it a reputable body.

What I have learned from news reports both concerning the appalling conduct of its CEO and the judgement that prohibited Mermaids from contacting a child whose mother was pushing him into transition gives me a low opinion.

Some may recall the mother of a child very troubled by their sex who posted here for a long while. The account she gave of her experience of Mermaids produced even more disturbing information. She was accused of all sorts by other members for steering her child away from blockers. She was kind enough to say that FWR had been her greatest source of support. She may still be around under another name

Mermaids has successfully positioned itself as the go to organization for children with issues relating to their sexual identity. Perhaps those of us who are placed to do so could introduce the Transgender Trend information as well?

Ounce - when organisations create false identities for people, they increase their power over them.

Oops. Missed out the point I feel strongest about, that there is a special place in hell for anyone who suggests to children that changing sex is possible.
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Not that I believe in hell, of course. But I think such teaching deserves punishment as it can only harm children. Maybe I can count on karma?

Gender is a part of all our identities though. Whether we resist it or accept it we are defined by our stance. Believing we can be free of it is part of the lie. We can only be totally free of gender if are completely disconnected from others. Part of what we do here is develop our own gender resistance. We are doing this socially. The lie is that it comes from within is part of the social enforcement of gender.
Thanks, SarahCarer, I really like this and want to be known as a gender resister. I am a woman because biology and I have been pushed/wandered towards various feminine roles because of societal expectations. Sometimes I have resisted, other times not so much.

Perhaps GenderOhm?

User14...

Yes, I can see it's a very effective and profitable way to control.

Oops. Missed out the point I feel strongest about, that there is a special place in hell for anyone who suggests to children that changing sex is possible.
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Not that I believe in hell, of course. But I think such teaching deserves punishment as it can only harm children. Maybe I can count on karma?

You can believe in karma if you want.

I am a Christian and I am unsure about hell. That is for another thread.

I believe we are seeing is free will, imperfection in people, the corruption of evil and all it temps us with. The evil we all have to fight every day is seducing people in this particular incidence, into this ideology via virtue signalling, money, power, obtaining admiration, by access and so forth.

The best way to fight this evil is with the TRUTH.

Lang I can't agree that gender is a fiction. I would define it as patterns of thought, behaviour and social interaction, categorised according to stereotypes associated with sex. Denying its existence doesn't reduce its influence. The lie of the gender spectrum is that it comes from within. What comes from within is the extent to which we accept gender norms. This depends on the social interactions we invest ourselves into