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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Woman's Place UK meeting threatened with "device"

572 replies

hungryhippie · 15/06/2018 15:32

twitter.com/Hastings_police/status/1007627071122759681

What the actual f*ck?

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PointlessTV · 16/06/2018 15:34

Many women with concerns over safety, dignity and privacy are left-wing.

Next week the Labour party will be be sent legal action via the high court, over AWS.

Baroquehavoc · 16/06/2018 15:35

I've had enough of people trying to rename male violence and intimation as a left/right political issue.

SardineReturns · 16/06/2018 15:37

I also dislike the implication that women should ignore threats of male violence.

I our lives we learn that when men threaten us, the threats are often credible.

We are told to keep on alert, trust our instincts, be cautious, "watch ourselves" etc.

And here is a bomb threat about a matter that has already had loads of other threats some of them acted on -

And we are told to ignore it. Don't be so silly, he's just on the wind up, or maybe he's "joking" yes all the usual stuff.

Pratchet · 16/06/2018 15:37

Yyy just one tweet etc

LangCleg · 16/06/2018 15:38

It's only a matter of time before extremist transactivism has its own Elliot Rodger. I really believe that. And if people like Clare don't want the backlash falling on them, they're going to have stop with the NATALT and actually start standing up against the threats.

Kettlepotblackagain · 16/06/2018 15:38

Clare -

What is legitimate enough and worthy for you to speak in solidarity with us if not a threat to kill at a peaceful meeting?

Please could you explain your criteria of worthiness..?

PointlessTV · 16/06/2018 15:39

Trans people can marry, work, have access to housing and so forth, what rights do they need, that don't involve disadvantage to half the population, who are a disadvantaged group based on their biological sex caste?

ClareFlourish · 16/06/2018 15:39

I frame it as nasty man is seeking to cause trouble for trans people. I hope no-one is deterred from going to an AWP meeting because of it; but anyone who assumes it is a trans person making the threat is further angered against trans people, or some trans people, or some trans activists- and that does trans people no good.

SardineReturns · 16/06/2018 15:39

"I've had enough of people trying to rename male violence and intimation as a left/right political issue."

This.

Loads of men have a low level dislike for women, espeically when they do not do as they are expected / told. A significant minority of men dislike women so much they are prepared to attack them (in a variety of ways).

This is the age old story of men getting angry at women saying NO. It is absolutely not a left / right issue. Women of the left and the right and the middle and the none all get the same shit from men.

SardineReturns · 16/06/2018 15:41

"I frame it as nasty man is seeking to cause trouble for trans people. "

The fuck?

It's women (and some trans women and maybe trans men and maybe men) who have been threatened Confused

Kettlepotblackagain · 16/06/2018 15:41

I don't know what he is but he is doing it in your name.

JoanSummers · 16/06/2018 15:42

I've had enough of people trying to rename male violence and intimation as a left/right political issue.
Me too, it is so tired.

Don't be so silly, he's just on the wind up, or maybe he's "joking" yes all the usual stuff.
Yes, absolutely, I missed the simplicity of what was being said but this is it, isnt it? Boys Will Be Boys, so Lighten Up Ladies.

Kettlepotblackagain · 16/06/2018 15:42

Yeah, lads banter innit

SardineReturns · 16/06/2018 15:42

?

Trans activitsts have been calling for violent action against gender critical people (usually women) for years.

And like you say, nothing has come of this yet, so if it's all just a silly man being silly what does it matter his motivation?

Pratchet · 16/06/2018 15:43

You think it's an anti-trans activist?

My jaw just dropped to the fucking floor

PointlessTV · 16/06/2018 15:43

The potential bomber seems to want to bomb women on your behalf, Clare, because of #ManFriday activism.

SardineReturns · 16/06/2018 15:43

I mean if we have to ignore it, why can't you do the same, and not worry about how this man threatening women with a bomb might impact trans people?

ClareFlourish · 16/06/2018 15:43

He is not doing it in my name. See my condemnations above.

Kettlepotblackagain · 16/06/2018 15:44

Yes Clare - it's all about you isn't it. Of course.

Pratchet · 16/06/2018 15:44

You think he's not doing it in your name because you think he's anti trans though.

R0wantrees · 16/06/2018 15:44

Apologies... meant to write BoreOfBabylon (see above)

SophoclesTheFox · 16/06/2018 15:45

Even if he is some random troll, you're missing the point clare.

He (assuming "he") is threatening women who want to get together to talk, which he says is in retaliation for the Man Friday event.

He doesn't want women to shut up about juggling or car maintenance or French literature, does he? He wants women to stop talking about gender and misogyny and the harmful impact of trans activism.

In the context of constant, constant, CONSTANT threats, harrasment, doxings, violence, intimidation and hatred directed towards women by extreme transactivists and misogynists who claim to be protecting your right to "be welcomed into women's spaces"

Also, a note on that. Women not objecting to things that they may perceive to be threatening doesn't mean they're happy about it. They may just simply melt away rather than confront. You know this, right? Absence of complaint can't be read as endorsement.

SardineReturns · 16/06/2018 15:46

This is from USA tactics isn't it. When someone "on your side" does something you disagree with, you say oh that person is actually a double agent. They are working for the enemy.

Maybe this guy's twitter account is a handle for Julie Bindel or Germaine Greer? Yes that sounds way more likely than it being an angry man who is heeding the calls to take violent action against women who have the temetiry to say no to men.

R0wantrees · 16/06/2018 15:46

ClareFlourish
Has anyone claimed otherwise?

Perhaps its worth re-reading your initial post on this thread?