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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I am S p a r t a c u s

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PermissionToSpeakSir · 13/06/2018 18:53

I am a woman.

I was a girl.

I am an adult human female.

Something a man can never be.

I am a woman.

People refer to me has her and she.

Sometimes said with deep contempt and misogyny.

I am a woman.

Something a male will never be.

I have a vagina and uterus.

I menstruate and have given birth.

I am a mother.

Something a male will never be.

I have been insulted, assaulted, belittled, dismissed, held back, intimidated, stereotyped, terrorised, mocked, shamed, humiliated because I am a woman.

Something a male can never be.

I feel insulted, appropriated, offended, anxious, tense, depressed, hurt and under siege, when a male claims to be a woman or anyone says a male can be female.

It is not civil or respectful to treat me this way.

I am a woman.

I am Spartacus.

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Ereshkigal · 15/06/2018 16:15

Thanks Caroline, it's much appreciated.

Ereshkigal · 15/06/2018 16:17

Oh yes I nearly forgot. I am Spartacus.

Men are not women. Male is not female. Freedom is not Slavery. 2 and 2 equal 4, not 5. I will not lie.

MsMcWoodle · 15/06/2018 16:17

Thanks Caroline.

Mossandclover · 15/06/2018 16:18

I am a woman, my natal sex (ie sex) is female, whatever I do I will be a female and a woman until the day I die. Equally my dh is a man, his natal sex (ie sex) is male, he can do nothing to change this.

All women/females and no men/males have vaginas, all men/males and no women/females have a penis.

Your sex is observed at birth.

R0wantrees · 15/06/2018 16:59

WPUK threatened with a 'device' at Hastings meeting.
thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3278892-Womans-Place-UK-meeting-threatened-with-device

TransplantsArePlants · 15/06/2018 17:01

Rowan

You are a bloody marvel.

toocool4cats · 15/06/2018 17:22

I dressed up as a bunny once, it did not mean that I became a bunny.
I am Spartacus

Timesupforidentitypolitics · 15/06/2018 17:39

So glad the thread is surviving! Still Spartacus, still a woman, with mammaries, a utererus, overies, a vagina .......and a devil may care demeaner..........Wink

R0wantrees · 15/06/2018 17:42

TransplantsArePlants

I'm bloody raging!!!

this twitter quote in response to CRUK & quoted by Daily Mail is apparently from a US TRA called Becks Gerber:

"Thank you for this. I’ve just had a pre-cancerous cervical lesion removed. The misgendering I received at my doctor got so bad I told my husband I’d rather die of cancer instead. But I got through it & am thankful I got checked early!"

see thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3277806-Cancer-Research-anyone-with-a-cervix

Pratchet · 15/06/2018 17:43

Blindly follow the cult to death

BossWitch · 15/06/2018 17:49

Humans are mammals. Mammals are either female sex or male sex. Humans cannot change their sex.

A man cannot be a woman. A woman cannot be a man.

Sex is not a feeling. Gender is just a social construct.

I am Spartacus.

R0wantrees · 15/06/2018 18:23

Isn't this the heart of the ideology?

I am S p a r t a c u s
WichBitchHarpyTerfThatsMe · 15/06/2018 19:27

I expected MN to have zapped this thread by now under the new Gilieadan rules. Any thoughts on why they haven't done so yet?

RubyShooFan · 15/06/2018 19:30

Because they know we’d start another and another?

They can’t shut us all up, we’re 51% of the population Smile

TerfsUp · 15/06/2018 19:35

"Thank you for this. I’ve just had a pre-cancerous cervical lesion removed. The misgendering I received at my doctor got so bad I told my husband I’d rather die of cancer instead. But I got through it & am thankful I got checked early!"

Oh, FFS.

Prawnofthepatriarchy · 15/06/2018 19:38

So this person with the precancerous lesion of the cervix has a husband and they're banging on about being misgendered? Am I missing something mahoosive here?

TerfsUp · 15/06/2018 19:57

I suspect the twitterati identifies as gender queer / non-binary / etc.

Maryz · 15/06/2018 20:05

It seems the person is a long-haired female presenting (whatever that means, but I think it means s/he - no intention to misgender, honest, I don't know her "pronouns" - wears dresses) transperson with a biologically female body who wants to be referred to as a man.

It's very confusing.

I think s/he/they are also identify as homosexual as his/her/their husband is a man. Whether he is a man or identifies as a man, I have no idea. Presumably if he is also genetically female bodied they are lesbians, no? In the traditional sense anyway.

Surely to goodness this person is so special there can't be many of them, so rewriting an entire charity's marketing material to allow for the very few of them there are is one massive waste of resources.

I get that this post will be held up as an example of transphobia and laughing at/belittling the "queer" community, but I truly, honestly genuinely have no fucking clue how to talk about this stuff. I want to shove my fingers in my ears and scream.

R0wantrees · 15/06/2018 20:13

Apparently this person is known to be an active TRA.
(see the CRUK thread above)

R0wantrees · 15/06/2018 20:16

There's quite a lot of information about this person on Kiwi Farms

(which I am not in anyway endorsing)

crayoladreamz · 15/06/2018 20:19

Thread 🤟🏻

Agree with every word. I am Spartacus.

AtreidesFreeWoman · 15/06/2018 20:26

@Maryz

I've just spat out some v expensive gin whilst reading your post.

Note to self: gin, laughs and FWR in combination are worth the spillage :-)

AtreidesFreeWoman · 15/06/2018 20:28

Sorry - gin lost from mouth in an explosive guffaw!

Fairenuff · 15/06/2018 21:20

Well done Maryz, I think you swerved the terminology gag there.

AngryFatherNow · 15/06/2018 21:27

I am not Spartacus.

I am the proud father of a strong girl who is a budding Spartacus.

I am also the loving husband of a strong woman, and the caring son of a strong mother.

I am a pissed off father, husband and son, who does not want any male-bodied person to appropriate my female relatives' sex, nor to take away their right to be safe from embarrassment or aggression by males in places that were designed to be exclusively for females.

I am an angry father wondering how best to protect his family from this f*ing nonsense.

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