I am a science teacher teaching secondary sex education and genetics

[Clairetree1]

Ever single time. Every single time. Every single time.

I am being asked how men turn into women.

I say they can't. They turn into transwomen. These are men who change their bodies to be as much like women as possible, but are still men.

Every single time I teach pregnancy I am asked how men can do it.

Every single time we go through genetics I get a shocked response for saying "this is male, this is female"

Every single time I make any distinction between male and female I am asked "are you allowed to say that?

I equate being ordered to teach that men can become woman to previous generations of teachers being ordered to teach nazi race science.

I am quite sure I will be sacked one day

diddlemethis I'm sorry for your bad experiences

I can see why this would give you a certain perception of trans women which i do not share.

You wouldn't put those hormones in your body unless you were really bloody sure.

And yet the transgender advocates teach that teens should put those hormones in their body to find out.

You have a history of mendacity, daimbars.

Such a condescending post from daim

As predicted.

And yet the transgender advocates teach that teens should put those hormones in their body to find out.

Perhaps in the dark, world of Reddit if you search hard enough but no reputable organisation is advocating this.

Even if, say, a region of the brain were to be found which unequivocally seemed to be more similar between transwomen and natal women than between transwomen and men (even after one had got a big enough sample, allowed for brain plasticity, etc. etc.) it still wouldn't settle the question - you'd still be left with two competing interpretations: "this shows that transwomen are women" versus "this explains why a subset of biological males believe themselves to be women ."

(A bit like the much vaunted "god region" of the brain a few years ago, which seemed to be much more active in religious believers than non-believers, and which, when externally stimulated, gave sensations test subjects reported as feeling like religious experiences. As the lead researcher was at pains to point out, this didn't do anything to settle the question of whether there is a god. It just explains why some people feel like there's a god. They might be right, they might be wrong.)

I've just read about a parent of a child whose school nurses were encouraging hormone use at 14. Against parental wishes I might add.

here

The school nurses' office is not the dark dark world of Reddit last time I looked

Pratchet that's anecdotal on a Twitter thread not a reputable organisation.

I confess that I have not read the entire thread but it seems to me the simplest thing for biology teachers and parents to do is add a bit about the cuttlefish and sun fish that create the illusion that they are the opposite sex a mating strategy.

"this shows that transwomen are women" versus "this explains why a subset of biological males believe themselves to be women ."

It's such a gaslight, especially for women. So either women are the centre of the universe and all those who are not adult females are a subset of humanity: or humans are biologically xx or xy except in a tiny subset on the xy spectrum in which the latter has to be assigned at birth.

It's obvious which one it is.

So you advocate that we believe this parent is lying?

May we apply the same disbelief to every anecdote from a trans person about their stress, trauma, transition etc?

Yes, if you could conclusively prove you had a female brain / soul or whatever, would that trump having a cock? (to put it bluntly).

That said, I think society would have much more sympathy if there was scientific evidence to support why someone feels trapped in the wrong body. Right now, there's no evidence that I know of. That's not to say I don't believe people do feel as they do, but I know people who feel blessed by God too. Feelings and facts aren't synonymous in my book though.

You are like a wet rag daim regarding your 'contributions' which at best are risible.

Do you think the parent is lying Daim?

Pratchet I don't automatically take every stranger's post on Twitter as gospel.

Do you think they're lying?

I believe something is going on with transwomen, I don't believe that they are trapped in the wrong body though.

A good portion are gender non conforming because they are on the Autistic spectrum.

A good proportion have been watching too much porn.

I am sure there are many issues science has yet to answer.

In the meantime, let's segregate by sex.

No. It's science. But given people on this thread don't seem to care about science, I am not going to look up the references for you.

I care pretty deeply about science actually. One could say I’m passionate about it.

I’m still waiting for an explanation of how a male, with XY, can change into a female who is XX. Use whatever terminology you like, if you need to, or explain simply. I’m waiting.

The thing is it is not really about what's going on in your head. If your male brain was suddenly transplanted into a female body (let's assume the signals sent to your glands from your brain managed to remain so your new body continued to behave as female.) then, people would probably treat you as a woman, though this would be modified by your "unfeminine" chauvinist behaviour. Your behaviour would be permanently affected by your male not female socialisation. Your behaviour would also already be impacted by not having experienced female physical experiences eg menstruation, physical weakness, not just social ones. This female you have taken over would perhaps have not such a good job as you as a male had despite similar skills, IQ and education. I just don't think you could ever be a woman even then.

I don't believe some friends who believe in God are lying... they are truthful, but in my opinion misguided.

Same with people who feel like a woman / man in the wrong body. How do they know what another sex feels like? How did I know I feel like other women or men? I don't. I could buy into what I 'think' the other sex feels like and that's a societal representation, but even then, I'd most likely be buying into my idealised vision of the opposite sex, a vision that I prefer to my own actual state. A 'dream' if you will.

And yet the transgender advocates teach that teens should put those hormones in their body to find out.

daimbars
Mermaids recommend blocking naturally occurring hormones in confused children.

Most young people who start blockers will progress in time to cross sex hormones which then reflect their inner self

And of course your brain cells would be XY.

"That said, I think society would have much more sympathy if there was scientific evidence to support why someone feels trapped in the wrong body. Right now, there's no evidence that I know of."

There is scientific evidence of at least 20 genes which seem to be behind it. More research is needed before it is proved but there is strong evidence for a genetic basis - and not on chromosome 23