I am a science teacher teaching secondary sex education and genetics

[Clairetree1]

Ever single time. Every single time. Every single time.

I am being asked how men turn into women.

I say they can't. They turn into transwomen. These are men who change their bodies to be as much like women as possible, but are still men.

Every single time I teach pregnancy I am asked how men can do it.

Every single time we go through genetics I get a shocked response for saying "this is male, this is female"

Every single time I make any distinction between male and female I am asked "are you allowed to say that?

I equate being ordered to teach that men can become woman to previous generations of teachers being ordered to teach nazi race science.

I am quite sure I will be sacked one day

[Ereshkigal]

I guess we'll have to wait until the next exciting thread for Daim to respond!

[Datun]

Interestingly Stonewall seem to have taken the word transvestite off the list. But kept cross dresser.

Cross dressing is a fetish.

It seems to remain under other definitions of transwomen, though.

www.google.co.uk/search?q=Stonewall+trans+umbrella&rlz=1CDGOYI_enGB784GB784&hl=en-GB&prmd=isnv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5l9-23c3bAhXBD8AKHe2KBWIQ_AUIESgB&biw=320&bih=492#imgrc=yebXw3cc3M209M:

daim are you stating, publicly, that men with AGP are not trans?

[TimeLady]

Miranda Yardley explains AGP here

mirandayardley.com/en/what-autogynephilia-is-and-what-is-it-not-a-brief-note/

[OldCrone]

daim
What is a crossdresser?

[OldCrone]

No, daim, your reading comprehension skills really are poor.

PIE infiltrated the gay rights movement (that does not mean I think gay people are paedophiles). I suspect that the trans rights movement may also have been infiltrated by a similar group of people (that does not mean that I think transgender people are paedophiles).

I realise I have used some long words in my explanation. I hope it is not too difficult for you to understand.

[daimbars]

That wasn't your argument. You said Stonewall was in support of autogynaephilia. I pointed out this is a lie.

[Ereshkigal]

People have answered your disingenuous questions Daim. Poor 2/10 for effort.

[TimeLady]

..and their duped partners.

[Battleax]

Tell that to the autogynaephiliacs.

[daimbars]

autogynaephilia does not come under the queer umbrella. You made that bit up.

[Battleax]

We all know that some fetishises are criminal and some aren’t, I think.

[Battleax]

No daim it was about different fetishes and mental disorders that are supported by queer theory as an umbrella.

[daimbars]

Nope, nowhere does Stonewall say it supports autogynaephilia you made it all up.

[AngryAttackKittens]

I've asked this more than once and still haven't gotten an answer. Daim and/or Gib, at what point in transition has a person changed sex, and what was the mechanism by which that change occurred?

Will keep asking this until an answer is forthcoming.

[Datun]

Calling it a 'male fetish'? On a public parenting forum? Based on what evidence exactly?

This one goes too far, have reported.

You might want to take that up with Stonewall. Transvestite fetishism is officially part of the trans umbrella.

Something that you must be patently well aware of, and desperate to suppress.

For any lurkers wondering what form this takes, this thread (below) is written by, and for, the women who are married to transwomen with the fetish.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3101834-trans-widows-escape-committee

[Battleax]

I wish I’d paid more attention to queer theory earlier beyond harrumphing that Women’s studies courses were being replaced.

[OldCrone]

daim
The stonewall trans umbrella
www.stonewall.org.uk/help-advice/glossary-terms#t

[Ereshkigal]

And where is Stonewall actively supporting cross dressers with AGP? I must have missed that bit

Yes you must! Do keep up.

[Battleax]

I must have missed that bit

Where’ve you been? Down a well?

[Italiangreyhound]

I am not arguing for cloning! Quite the opposite.

[Ereshkigal]

OK, gib and daims, if gender dysphoria is not a mental health issue, what is it?

Daim was happy to admit earlier that she has a faith based belief about it being inexplicable by science.

[daimbars]

And where is Stonewall actively supporting cross dressers with AGP? I must have missed that bit