Two boys take 1st and 2nd place in Connecticut girls' 100m sprint

[OrchidInTheSun]

twitter.com/GameTimeCT/status/1003739370736816129

Isn't that great? Terry has got the fastest ever meet time for a girl! Poor Bridget is now third.

I wonder if Terry and Andraya will now get university scholarships based on their poor track performances when compared to their male peers?

NonSuchFun

My sons nursery had a 'decorate your own easter egg' competition thing, and near half of the entries were obviously done by parents, not 2/3 year olds. Obviously parents can help, but these were actually done by the parents. And the school encouraged this by giving top prize, and second, to two entries that were obviously done by adults.

A few years before this, the same thing happenes when DD was there.

Good on you for learning from what your child said. But it seems really really common.

I brought this up with the nursery teachers too, who brushed it off as 'we weren't the ones judging, it was someone else'

That seems to be very unfair to me
Are we supposed to care about what you think is fair? We can discuss whatever we consider is relevant. It's called 'feminist chat'. Girls and women being pushed out of girls/women's events by boys/men who self identify as female is a feminist issue and therefore up for discussion.

Picasso sorry, I see your point now.
I missed out the ironic wink in the first post.

I see Daim has resorted to telling women they are doing feminism wrong.

Why is anything involving trans women the first to be shared on FWR and provokes the most outrage? That seems very unfair to me.

Because many of us see this assault on the very definition of female and woman to be the most urgent issue for feminism today.

If you are happy for woman and female to mean nothing (and you do seem to) then you won't get it.

Daim: I do not believe for one single second that you or any other transactivist wants to retain Equality Act exemptions. Everything else you do and say disproves it.

And if they get their sports scholarships to university then decide on graduation that they’re not trans after all, but men, and so can enter the job market with all the advantages men have ...

Always women and girls losing out and always TRA/MRA telling us we are wrong for stating this. It's sickening.

Amazing Daimbars that you spend so such time on here given that you so disapprove of women's priorities, political campaigning and focus. I wonder what on earth motivates you to be here?

Pratchet believe it or not we're on the same side and I'm not a trans activist. I have said a million times on here I'm in favour of keeping the exemptions in the Equality Act - search my name if you don't believe me.

Calmly and rationally proposing to keep the existing Equality Act exemptions is so much more logical in my mind than sharing scaremongering stories about the actions of a handful of trans women that aren't even in the UK.

I can't take you seriously when you use the word scaremongering.

I don't think you're a transactivist either, daimbars

At least the other WUMs have had the decency to keep quiet on this thread.

What is a WUM?

It's not scaremongering to see Connecticut now has a boys’ track competition, a unisex track competition but no girls’ competition.

Women: if transactivism isn't opposed, A, B and C will happen.

Daimbars and chums: you're being alarmist because you hate trans people. A, B and C will never happen. That would be unfair and ridiculous.

Women: A has happened.

Daimbars and chums: you're only highlighting A because you hate transpeople.

Women: B has happened.

Daimbars and chums: you're only highlighting B because you hate transpeople.

Women: C has happened.

Daimbars and chums: you're only highlighting C because you hate transpeople.

By the time we have got to Z, will Daimbars and chums concede we have a point? No, because they are anti-woman. They'll still be calling us anti-trans and pretending they oppose anything that's bad for women though.

What is a WUM?

Wind up merchant.

WUM might be Wind Up Merchant?

Sorry, cross post.

snufflehuff I read that post as ironic maybe?

FermatsTheorem that's interesting about Mouncey. How did you find that out? I've been keeping an eye on that as I'm in Oz but hadn't seen anything. Recent article in Guardian by HM was terrible.

daimbars the reason it is highlighted, and I'm sure you know this, is because if a blind eye is turned and/or something becomes acceptable at one level it doesn't take long for it to become acceptable higher up. When the impact is noted at higher levels and questions are then asked it is too late, the precedent has been set.

For the one who says it can't happen here - it is happening here.

All of the guidance now given to schools regarding sports says that boys identifying as trans must not be excluded from girls' sports. We also have at least one teenaged male athlete competing against the girls in Scotland (cannot recall where right now).

Most importantly, all trans orgs have lobbied hard to end all single-sex provisions and the government in its response to the trans equality inquiry report says this in Recommendation 13:

We agree that there are likely to be few occasions in sport where exclusions are justified to ensure fair competition or the safety of competitors.

Given that in competitive sports male athletes are always at an advantage against female athletes (apart from extremely rare exceptions thought to be in extreme endurance sports), speaking of "few occasions" is ludicrous or ignorant or indifferent to women's and girl's sports.

There is no mention in Recommendation 13 of the EA, but speaking of justified exclusions is clearly a reference to the EA and it is an insidiuous one at that - because how can a sports club provide the required evidence to justify excluding males? It's been the accepted state of affairs that competitive sports is segregated by sex (and by age), so this evidence hasn't ever been needed before.

So the claim it couldn't happen here and demanding that we should therefore stop worrying about it happening elsewhere has been overtaken by real life events already.

All of the guidance now given to schools regarding sports says that boys identifying as trans must not be excluded from girls' sports

How the fuck can people be so stupid?

No, because they are anti-woman. They'll still be calling us anti-trans and pretending they oppose anything that's bad for women though.

YY.

daimbars the screen shot you referenced earlier in the thread stated that the organisers of any sport wishing to exclude transwomen would have to prove that such exclusion is the only way to make it fair for everyone and I take issue with this, the only proof required should be on the basis of biological sex.

Why are women being continually expected to justify and prove why they need and want sex segregated spaces and sports?

daimbars how is it scaremongering to mention actual events?
scaremongering

ˈskɛːmʌŋɡərɪŋ/

noun

the spreading of frightening or ominous reports or rumours.

"claims of scaremongering about the fate of jobs"

Do you mean we are spreading frightening or ominous reports? Should we just keep quiet then?