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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Alert the TRAs! Transphobia against transwomen!

113 replies

LaSqrrl · 06/06/2018 08:27

The tweet:
Straight men: would you date a trans person (m to f) if they’re hotter than regular women

The responses are a bunch of straight 'cis' men displaying obvious transphobia. I wonder if the TRAs will tell them to DIAF, or threat to rape them? Given lesbians are ordered to 'love the ladystick', or suffer the consequences, I am very curious to see what consequences befall straight men.

Answers on a postcard.

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ElenOfTheWays · 06/06/2018 12:29

I found it quite interesting how many men referenced "penis" as a reason for their "no".
Suggests many people are actually quite aware that TW often still have one.

BlooperReel · 06/06/2018 12:33

The 'That's just gay with extra steps' meme won Twitter.

LaSqrrl · 06/06/2018 12:34

The “true comparison” is between the treatment of lesbians who say they would not date/have sex with transwomen because they are male; and the treatment of men who say they would not date/have sex with transwomen because they are male.

Two groups of people saying the exact same thing about transwomen, yet one group gets piled on and another group does not.

Exactly Lunamoth.

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nauticant · 06/06/2018 12:35

I did, just for one foolish moment, consider verifying on google that the stories about some men and hoovers are correct BeyondSceptical. Sense prevailed though and I'm leaving that well alone.

FermatsTheorem · 06/06/2018 12:35

anonymouseagain that article is just so sad. All those people expecting other people to be complicit in their illusion, sitting by the sea shore like King Canute willing the sea not to come in, then being really upset when, not surprisingly, the other people say no (sometimes deliberately choosing the most offensive way of saying no they can) or worse, use them sexually, then say afterwards "ha ha, I'm actually a straight man, the joke's on you."

And this is all on the heads of the TRAs, for encouraging people in their delusions with stupid slogans like "transwomen are women, transmen are men."

bd67th · 06/06/2018 12:36

RE gay men and TIFs: have Man Friday considered going to a gay sauna?

LaSqrrl · 06/06/2018 12:39

it's nice to have concrete evidence that, as a woman, I'm probably being held to a different standard than men.

Indeed we are Freias, which was my point in sharing that tweet. I knew there would be no consequences for the males on that thread - but by hell there would have been a pile-on for lesbians if they had an entire thread exactly like that.

But I am half hoping the TRAs do get wind of it, and try it. See how well it plays out... methinks not-so-well.

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CharlieParley · 06/06/2018 12:42

That's the equivalent to saying that a gay couple are not really married because they can't have children. It's prejudiced and simply wrong. Just as your claim about trans women.

Oh dear, Gibberty, that's a lot of gibberish today. You're really not doing well with your comparisons at all...

It's exactly not like a gay couple that is married because they can of course have children for starters unless the only kids you accept are those born to a married man and woman (how traditional of you) and then many couples cannot have children but are of course just as married as couples with kids.

But most importantly your comparison sucks because neither of the gay men in your daft example is pretending to be anything other than what he is - a man in a same-sex relationship. Very much unlike the transwomen pretending they are actual women in a heterosexual encounter/relationship with a man.

PencilsInSpace · 06/06/2018 12:42

Has anyone tagged Owen Jones yet?

bd67th · 06/06/2018 12:50

But I am half hoping the TRAs do get wind of it, and try it. See how well it plays out... methinks not-so-well.

They won't, for two reasons: 1) they are only interested in controlling women, and 2) they don't want to turn men hostile because that would reduce their chance of succeeding in destroying women's rights.

R0wantrees · 06/06/2018 12:53

On the substantive differences between male and female sexual harrassment (context is girls and boys):
twitter.com/Commonswomequ/status/1003667705415831552

video of vidence given to Women's & Equalities committe by @ VeraJ (Twitter)
www.womenonporn.org

LaSqrrl · 06/06/2018 12:59

Oh dear, Gibberty, that's a lot of gibberish today.

Heartily agreed. I have not bothered to untangle any of his mess, over several threads. Obvious troll is obvious I guess.

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GardenGeek · 06/06/2018 12:59

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OneHourTwentyFourMinutes · 06/06/2018 13:03

Where is Owen Jones @OwenJones84 and his dog whistle, why is he not condemning these men as he does women?

Floeer · 06/06/2018 13:10

Be a useful tweet to link to though in future next time TAs start having a go at "transphobic" lesbians or a good tweet to link to next time TAs claim most people see TIMs as women

ChickenMe · 06/06/2018 13:19

If I ever get a twitter account I shall make it sound like I'm a man and I'll be able to speak freely it seems

SuitedandBooted · 06/06/2018 13:22

Be a useful tweet to link to though in future next time TAs start having a go at "transphobic" lesbians or a good tweet to link to next time TAs claim most people see TIMs as women

Quite - bookmarked it.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if it gets removed fromTwittter. Can't have reality creeping in.

Pratchet · 06/06/2018 13:45

Blimey. Hypocrites.

Pratchet · 06/06/2018 13:46

Is anyone screenshotting (beg)

TerfsUp · 06/06/2018 14:03

Straight men: would you date a trans person (m to f) if they’re hotter than regular women

Someone should ask Wee Owen if he would date a transman who was hotter than a man. Oh, wait. They did and Wee Owen threw his toys out of his pram.

Floeer · 06/06/2018 14:12

They did and Wee Owen threw his toys out of his pram

when was this? I missed that totally!

Floeer · 06/06/2018 14:15

Pratchet here you go. I hope how I've screenshotted a lot of the thread doesn't make it too long of an image.

Alert the TRAs! Transphobia against transwomen!
Floeer · 06/06/2018 14:16

oh pants that didn't work at all!!

Opheliah · 06/06/2018 14:17

I've only screenshotted the poll results

Alert the TRAs! Transphobia against transwomen!
Opheliah · 06/06/2018 14:18

Knowing Twitter though, the TRAs will get motivated and start piling on to click more "yes" votes.