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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Where do we draw the trans line....?

712 replies

loveyouradvice · 02/06/2018 16:07

Really interesting reading all the Daily Mail comments on latest Man Friday article.... most seemed quite happy with the idea of transsexuals using women's facilities, but no transwomen with dangly bits.

This used to be my position - and may still be so... but I am really concerned the more I read about certain transsexuals (the previously macho late-transitioning type).... those with rampant AGP which leads them to fetishise women's bodies and being in women's spaces in a very mansplainy way.... I feel very squeamish about sharing space with them.... and was deeply shocked by learning that some comb bins for used tampons and pads and wear them to "feel more like a woman" and then celebrate and share this online with other fetishists.....

My suspicion is that for the sake of what one might see as the transsexuals we have long shared space with, out of courtesy and respect, that yes it is okay for them to be in some women's spaces .... But my concern is that with TRAs being so active and the transgender movement steamrollering ahead, that more of the aggressive AGP type are going to feel liberated to come out of the closet and into our spaces....and the balance will shift

I know this is just academic - given that focussing on No Self-Id is our priority - but would be very interested in hearing what other's think as I try to clarify my own position

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spontaneousgiventime · 04/06/2018 16:28

TerfsUp Shucks, caught out. Grin

spontaneousgiventime · 04/06/2018 16:29

Does anyone have a good recipe for marmalade please?

Bowlofbabelfish · 04/06/2018 16:30

It's woman who also rape and murder and they have done and still do

Think carefully. Which of these numbers is bigger: 2 or 98?

J4nice · 04/06/2018 16:30

So woman are rapists and killers and thieves and murders and are violent but that won't help push your hidden agenda which will put vulnerable people like me at risk of harm and stir violence

So you are supporting and encouraging violence in public places

spontaneousgiventime · 04/06/2018 16:31

Plum jam?

LangCleg · 04/06/2018 16:31

You take the gold medal, I'll have silver

I think you, me and TerfsUp should all get gold medals!

LangCleg · 04/06/2018 16:33

Plum jam?

I can do you a nice rhubarb chutney one. Few ingredients. Very easy.

Magpiesarehuge · 04/06/2018 16:33

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MipMipMip · 04/06/2018 16:33

Thank you for the EA post Juzza. Realky interesting. And very clear.

spontaneousgiventime · 04/06/2018 16:34

LangCleg I lurrrrrrrrrrve rhubarb.

J4nice · 04/06/2018 16:34

I have reported Spontaneous personal attacks against me the rules state no personal attacks so hopefully they will get banned or warned at a minimum

spontaneousgiventime · 04/06/2018 16:35

Iced tea is nice this time of year. That with crackers and jam.

GenderApostate · 04/06/2018 16:36

Oh do shut up dear. When 2 Men a week are killed by their Female partner and whole families are annihilated by Women then you might have a point.
Women don’t rape, in the UK it’s a specific offence that needs a penis.
You’re welcome.

Magpiesarehuge · 04/06/2018 16:36

There are cases of woman raping other woman and woman who have put a steapon on and duped other woman in to sex

Would those rapist women have a penis?

J4nice · 04/06/2018 16:36

@Magpiesarehuge 16:33 Today
Also, what would happen if i went for a smear test, a massage, a breast examination or even a bikini wax and requested a female - would i have to accept say J4nice or a woman with a beard and penis bulge. Would i be breaking a discrimination law or committing a hate crime?

I find that very offensive that you are saying I have a beard and a penis bulge so I've reported you

CuriousaboutSamphire · 04/06/2018 16:36

Rhubarb chutney you say? I usually use any glut of the 'barb in a pie filling, orange juice and rhubarb. It goes nicely in a pie, a crumble, or with ice cream, like a fool Grin

JuzzaL · 04/06/2018 16:36

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JessicaEccles · 04/06/2018 16:36

woman who have put a steapon on and duped other woman in to sex

Poor fucking MP, having to trawl through this. .....

J4nice · 04/06/2018 16:38

Magpiesarehuge

There are cases of woman raping other woman and woman who have put a steapon on and duped other woman in to sex

Would those rapist women have a penis?

You are making fun of male rape victims and female victims who have been sexually asulted with a strap on

This is disgusting

You are implying that only someone with a penis can rape

Those with a vagina can too and you are doing a discredit to such victims by playing it down

spontaneousgiventime · 04/06/2018 16:38

JessicaEccles FFS I've just spat coffee all over the dog. Grin

GenderApostate · 04/06/2018 16:39

I think the MP meeting is made up, much like all the other ‘facts’ .

WeeBisom · 04/06/2018 16:40

J4nice :
You are a highly entertaining troll, nice work!

LangCleg · 04/06/2018 16:40

Poor fucking MP, having to trawl through this. .....

There are PDFs, dontchaknow, PDFs.

Truscum · 04/06/2018 16:40

it's clear their agender is to stir hate and to push legislation that will prevent woman like myself from using bathrooms so that we are in danger of abuse and being harmed because other hateful men like some of the posters on here threatened and harass woman like me

Oh aye? Hmm

Try it. You might be surprised. I’ve been perfectly fine using the men’s bathrooms. Unless your entire world will collapse if you get the slightest hint of a raised eyebrow (I think that’s actual abuse now isn’t it?) then you will be fine.

The worst I’ve encountered has been a young lad showing off in front of his mates and asking me some questions. He was practically still a child, and children speak the truth. I laughed it off and told a joke and they were all fine.

Also, hate to break it to you. We ain’t women. We deserve (and currently have) the same rights as anyone else. We have a mental disorder, which in some cases it’s best to treat with SRS and hormones. None of those things mean we get to yell at women who don’t want to lie to us, themselves or children.

So woman are rapists and killers and thieves and murders and are violent but that won't help push your hidden agenda which will put vulnerable people like me at risk of harm and stir violence

Confused

We, as a group, commit certain crimes at the same rate as men (guess why)

That rate is much, much, much, higher than the rate that women commit those crimes.

Also, assuming you are in the UK, women can’t rape. Rape needs to involve a penis. Women don’t have a penis.

JuzzaL · 04/06/2018 16:40

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