The Shame of Twitter

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Predictably I got blocked from twitter after Miranda Yardley's treatment made me peak peak trans

It is frustrating we can’t read what Miranda wrote. So how do we go about setting up our own space then?

mobile.twitter.com/hotkebabz/status/1000005972767793152

i saw this on twitter earlier today

It is frustrating we can’t read what Miranda wrote.
Maybe the comment is archived on that dob-in-a-terf twitter?

Tweet:
reminder that it’s not just women who have wombs and can get pregnant #Repealthe8h for our non binary and trans friends too

When they include 'non binary', it shows up how stupid it is to conflate sex and gender. And issues like these, that only concern female biology, are about the ONLY times you will hear a peep out of the TRAs with regard to TIFs. Other than that, TIMs, TIMs and more bloody TIMs.

The TRAs keep prattling on about 'gender dysphoria' - well, isn't following standard human sexual reproduction "triggering" to that so-called 'dysphoria'? Oh I see, more of a part-time, dysphoria of convenience thing? Got you.

'Just' women

Sorry about this mnhq

MY said a certain person is a non-woman or something like that

Or is not a non man

On a similar subject, was Posie's post about her video with Stephanie Davies-Arai removed? Has this already been discussed?

Anyway, @therealposieparker, excellent video! As I pediatrician, I have tremendous concerns regarding the subject matter presented. Thank you!

Random twitter q - if I follow someone, is there a reason that my follow would drop off? (As in, I realise if someone blocks me, that would drop the follow? Is that right?) but why would my follows drop off if i’m not banned?
General question - someone posted that twitter seems to be dropping follows and I don’t understand how it works.

Not banned, sorry - I meant blocked.

If you block someone they no longer appear as a follower

The issue of organised mass reports on Twitter was raised here with Del Harvey (VP, Twitter Trust & Safety) 24/5
with comment,

"From the number of women, mainly lesbians, being banned it's clearly working. It would be great to see Twitter at least acknowledge this problem & offer support to women so affected."

twitter.com/FeministRoar/status/999670519619342336

Link to the Twitter 'Hateful conduct policy' shared by Del Harvey:
help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-policies/hateful-conduct-policy

And issues like these, that only concern female biology, are about the ONLY times you will hear a peep out of the TRAs with regard to TIFs. Other than that, TIMs, TIMs and more bloody TIMs.

YY.

And also it's relevant to current consideration of legislation.

And also it's relevant to current consideration of legislation

Some calls in Ireland against 'cis-sexist' language eg reference to 'pregnant people' etc in forthcoming legislation & policies following the referendum result.

Current thread:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3260503-Trans-Voices-For-Appeal-Complain-About-Together-For-Yes-Campaign

It’s only a term of abuse if there’s something wrong with being a man. Which sounds to me like sexism.

Well, quite. We live in a bizarre world where some people think saying ' Miranda Yardley is a man' would be transphobic.

Maybe these mass reportings do happen, but I'm a member of several transgender websites and know several people you would probably call activists and have never once seen a message even remotely along the lines of 'Let's target so-and-so this week'. So is it a case of the reportings actually being coordinated or just the fact that there are an awful lot of people on Twitter so if someone says something that's seen as offensive (whatever the topic, not just relating to transgenderism, feminism etc), lots of people will naturally, without any prompting, act upon it? I honestly believe that plenty of people like to spin the coordinated attack line because it reduces the whole thing to some spiteful TRAs narrative rather than actually having to accept the fact that maybe some people do find certain things offensive. It's easy to exist in a bubble when you're involved in a particular cause, to think that everything on your side is right to such an extent that you cannot sit back for one second and think 'Yeah, maybe they had a point there' or 'Perhaps they did go too far with that post'. From what I can see on Twitter there's certainly a lot of mutual backslapping from the same people over and over again. When that sort of thing happens it's easy to become blinded to what others think and to find excuses or conspiracy theories that explain away anything you regard as a setback rather than engaging in any self-analysis and daring to admit 'Maybe that was wrong'.

It happened

It's easy to exist in a bubble when you're involved in a particular cause, to think that everything on your side is right to such an extent that you cannot sit back for one second and think 'Yeah, maybe they had a point there' or 'Perhaps they did go too far with that post'.

Yes, and the TRAs would know, wouldn't they? It's not gender critical people who generally block all people with opposing views. And below is evidence that Aimee Challoner (who runs a block list of 50k gender critical people) approves of mass reporting campaigns.

And what's stopping you setting it up?

Massive infrastructure investment.
Admin staff.
Legal Defence Fund (you'd better have one of these and it better be big!)
Agreement of Apple and Google*
Software Development costs.
Marketing budget

That list should get us started. And if you're wondering why you need Apple and Google to allow you to do this, it's because they have a de facto monopoly on the app market and apps are a critical part of such a platform today. Look at gab.ai . It's a Twitter alternative set up in response to censorship. But neither Google nor Apple will allow it in their markets because it doesn't censor speech. Therefore apps cannot be made available for it, thus it cannot take off.

You wont get anything that doesn't censor "hate speech" past Google and Apple. And Google especially will consider calling a man a man "hate speech."

So in short, your attempt to de-legitimize someone complaining about censorship by implying there's an easy way around it, is dumb.

How utterly ridiculous.

I and others have the screenshots to prove it happened

And why is it "going too far" when women say critical things, but not when men say equally critical or even far crueler things? Maybe have a think about that in between moments of smugness, Christine.

People suggesting that we set up our own Twitter realize that the actual Twitter got started with venture capital funding, right? That it wasn't just a couple of blokes pissing around in their spare time?

I went and created a ‘Miranda Yardley is a man’ thread. I wonder how that will pan out.